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14:58:57 <fsasaki> meeting: i18n ITS WG
14:58:59 <fsasaki> chair: Yves
14:59:04 <fsasaki> scribe: Felix
14:59:07 <fsasaki> scribeNick: fsasaki
14:59:28 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0062.html
14:59:34 <fsasaki> rrsagent, make log public
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15:00:51 <Zakim> +Yves_Savourel
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15:01:24 <Zakim> +Felix
15:03:19 <YvesS> zakim, who is here?
15:03:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see Yves_Savourel, Jirka, Felix
15:03:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see chriLi, RRSAgent, Zakim, fsasaki, YvesS, Jirka
15:05:01 <Zakim> +Stefan
15:05:03 <Zakim> -Stefan
15:05:04 <Zakim> +Stefan
15:05:28 <Zakim> +Sebastian_Rahtz
15:05:38 <fsasaki> regrets: Andrzej
15:05:52 <fsasaki> agenda at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0062.html
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15:06:25 <fsasaki> action: Felix to provide ruby tests and their implementation (ONGOING)
15:06:44 <fsasaki> s/ONGOING/PENDING/
15:07:06 <fsasaki> action: Felix to start a section on XHTML modularization for the XML i18n BP document (ONGOING)
15:07:48 <fsasaki> s/ONGOING/PENDING/
15:08:07 <fsasaki> action: Jirka to look at the test suite and see if the tests make sense (DONE)
15:08:18 <fsasaki> messages from Jirka at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0052.html
15:08:22 <fsasaki> and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0043.html
15:08:44 <fsasaki> Yves: we went through the errors and have fixed the files used within the spec
15:08:53 <fsasaki> .. I will fix the others
15:09:08 <fsasaki> action: Yves to fix all errors in test files reported by Jirka
15:09:32 <Jirka> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0052.html
15:10:47 <fsasaki> Yves: various typos etc. until the comment on "appendix D (Schemas for ITS)"
15:12:22 <fsasaki> Jirka explains his comment on appendix D
15:14:17 <fsasaki> Felix: worried about not mentioning that NVDL is used only for RELAX NG
15:15:31 <fsasaki> Jirka: it would not be possible using XML Schema 
15:15:44 <fsasaki> Yves: should we remove the last sentence?
15:15:49 <fsasaki> all: fine with that
15:16:14 <fsasaki> action: editors to add the paragraph on "appendix D (Schemas for ITS)" to appendix D excluding the last sentence
15:16:41 <fsasaki> yves: appendix E (Schematron schema for ITS) mentioned by Jirka
15:17:37 <fsasaki> all: fine with the change
15:18:15 <fsasaki> action: editors to make the change on appendix E mentioned at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0052.html
15:18:50 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-18-15
15:20:03 <fsasaki> action: Yves to make sure we have a section in the BP document for precedence of tool specific linking (DONE)
15:20:21 <fsasaki> action: Editors to go to the draft and check that there are no "CSS style elements" or the like. (PENDING)
15:20:39 <fsasaki> action: Editors to implement the the change in the specification regarding precedence order wording. (PENDING)
15:21:55 <fsasaki> action: Editors to remove the <ns> feature from the ITS draft (DONE)
15:22:30 <fsasaki> Yves: you put XMLNS in uppercase?
15:22:37 <fsasaki> Felix: was a mistake in the mail
15:23:12 <fsasaki> Yves: we need to close the bug related to that
15:23:31 <fsasaki> action:  Felix to post a proposal for both attribute notations on the span element. (DONE)
15:24:15 <fsasaki> Yves: new text proposal is at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0058.html
15:25:07 <fsasaki> action: editors to make text change described in thread ending at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0058.html
15:25:28 <fsasaki> Sebastian: problem is described at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0046.html
15:25:48 <fsasaki> Sebastian: only for its:span the atttributes are not in the ITS namespace
15:26:26 <fsasaki> .. it would be easy to declare all attributes again belonging to its:span
15:26:59 <fsasaki> .. but it is an overhead
15:27:07 <fsasaki> Yves: what should we do? Leave it as it is?
15:27:34 <fsasaki> Sebastian: the crude way is copying of the attribute
15:28:13 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/inputdata/Translate3.xml
15:28:50 <fsasaki> Felix: that test would not validate against the current schema since the ITS attributes at its:span are in the ITS namespace in the schema, but not in the test file
15:30:00 <fsasaki> Sebastian: I could invent a notation for re-using attribute notations with and without namespace
15:30:16 <fsasaki> Felix: might take a lot of time, maybe better just copy the attributes?
15:31:05 <fsasaki> action: Felix to change the ODD definitions by copying the attributes in ITS span without a namespace
15:31:21 <fsasaki> topic: test suite results
15:31:33 <fsasaki> Yves: almost everything works now
15:31:38 <fsasaki> .. we have only one difference now
15:31:45 <YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0052.html
15:31:45 <YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0052.html
15:31:45 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/
15:32:17 <fsasaki> Yves: there is only one error now. There is two, the second one has to do with a typo change
15:34:15 <fsasaki> .. the only difference is the generation of locInfoRefPointer
15:34:37 <fsasaki> Yves: locTYpe is a default behaviour, it seems
15:34:47 <fsasaki> s/locTYpe/locType
15:35:28 <fsasaki> Sebastian: the selector says "//data"
15:37:25 <fsasaki> Yves: fixing the file itself seems better than changing the language
15:37:55 <fsasaki> action: Felix to make the generation of the test report automatically
15:38:17 <fsasaki> action: Yves to make example http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/inputdata/EX-locNoteRefPointer-attribute-1.xml fixed
15:39:29 <fsasaki> Felix: http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/inputdata/EX-terms-selector-3.xml has also a different result
15:39:39 <fsasaki> Sebastian: I'll look at that
15:40:30 <fsasaki> Yves: http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/inputdata/EX-terms-selector-3.xml is just not updated on the test overview page
15:40:46 <fsasaki> .. Felix needs to generate the one for language
15:40:59 <fsasaki> .. Language1.xml
15:41:08 <fsasaki> topic: NVDL  appendix
15:41:13 <YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0061.html
15:41:53 <fsasaki> Yves: I'm fine with the proposals from Jirka
15:42:28 <fsasaki> action: editors to integrate http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0061.html into the draft
15:42:31 <Jirka> Great, I'm glad you like my proposal
15:42:40 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-42-31
15:43:01 <YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0044.html
15:44:18 <fsasaki> bug related to NVDL is http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4290
15:45:09 <fsasaki> bug related to http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-18-15 is  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4289
15:45:59 <fsasaki> topic: version attribute on its:version
15:46:29 <fsasaki> all: fine with the proposal 
15:47:19 <fsasaki> action: modify one paragraph saying that version should be prefixed at version. Modify the schema to reflect this. 
15:47:30 <fsasaki> action: Modify the samples and the test data to reflect the version attribute change
15:47:59 <fsasaki> first AI is for Felix, second for Yves
15:49:21 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-47-59
15:49:51 <fsasaki> bug related to version change is at http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4291
15:50:03 <fsasaki> topic: f2f planning
15:52:06 <fsasaki> Felix: I would be in Germany during the week of 9 April
15:52:15 <fsasaki> Yves: let's look at possibilities around this
15:52:49 <fsasaki> topic: BP document section on docbook
15:52:57 <fsasaki> Jirka: what is the schedule for this?
15:53:14 <fsasaki> Yves: many AIs are on this document, it is still under work
15:54:49 <fsasaki> topic: mails about ITS
15:54:50 <fsasaki> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0060.html
15:54:57 <fsasaki> Christian: introduces the mail
15:56:30 <fsasaki> topic: AOB
15:56:41 <Zakim> -Sebastian_Rahtz
15:56:45 <Zakim> -Felix
15:56:47 <Zakim> -Yves_Savourel
15:56:49 <Zakim> -Jirka
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15:59:24 <Zakim> I18N_TS()10:00AM has ended
15:59:25 <Zakim> Attendees were Yves_Savourel, +420.4.824.0.aaaa, Felix, Jirka, Christian, Sebastian_Rahtz
16:08:49 <fsasaki> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:08:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
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16:46:08 <fsasaki> rrsagent, bye
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> I see 18 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-actions.rdf :
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to provide ruby tests and their implementation (ONGOING) [1]
16:46:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-06-25
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to start a section on XHTML modularization for the XML i18n BP document (ONGOING) [2]
16:46:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-07-06
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jirka to look at the test suite and see if the tests make sense (DONE) [3]
16:46:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-08-07
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to fix all errors in test files reported by Jirka [4]
16:46:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-09-08
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: editors to add the paragraph on "appendix D (Schemas for ITS)" to appendix D excluding the last sentence [5]
16:46:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-16-14
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: editors to make the change on appendix E mentioned at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0052.html [6]
16:46:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-18-15
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to make sure we have a section in the BP document for precedence of tool specific linking (DONE) [7]
16:46:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-20-03
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Editors to go to the draft and check that there are no "CSS style elements" or the like. (PENDING) [8]
16:46:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-20-21
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Editors to implement the the change in the specification regarding precedence order wording. (PENDING) [9]
16:46:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-20-39
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Editors to remove the <ns> feature from the ITS draft (DONE) [10]
16:46:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-21-55
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to post a proposal for both attribute notations on the span element. (DONE) [11]
16:46:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-23-31
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: editors to make text change described in thread ending at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0058.html [12]
16:46:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-25-07
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to change the ODD definitions by copying the attributes in ITS span without a namespace [13]
16:46:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-31-05
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to make the generation of the test report automatically [14]
16:46:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-37-55
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to make example http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/inputdata/EX-locNoteRefPointer-attribute-1.xml fixed [15]
16:46:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-38-17
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: editors to integrate http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0061.html into the draft [16]
16:46:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-42-28
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: modify one paragraph saying that version should be prefixed at version. Modify the schema to reflect this.  [17]
16:46:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-47-19
16:46:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Modify the samples and the test data to reflect the version attribute change [18]
16:46:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-i18nits-irc#T15-47-30
16:46:11 <fsasaki> zakim, bye
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