W3C

i18n ITS working group (regular call during Oxford f2f)

19 Apr 2006

Attendees

Present
Christian, Diane (for regular ITS call), Felix, Sebastian, Yves
Regrets
Chair
Yves
Scribe
Felix

Contents


date: 19 Apr 2006

regular ITS call

action items

<scribe> ACTION: Versioning (pending) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]

yves: last proposals we have are the same
... felix said the proposal from Christian was o.k., to have it on the rules element, and if it is not here, on the root element
... sebastian said the good thing is that you don't have to pollute the rest of the instance

sebastian: and it is illegal to have the version attribute both at the root and at the <rules> element
... and it is impossible to mix version

yves: so if it is on the rules element, and I process local markup, I use it from the rules element

sebastian: it should be a fatal error to have multiple versions

yves: summary: the its:version attribute is mandatory at the rules element, if there is no rules element, it goes at the root element of the instance. If there are both it is an error if they have different versions.
... each file can have a different version. E.g.: if there are external rules imported via xlink:href, they could have a different version
... if we change anything related to precedence order, we are in big trouble

sebastian: for the version attribute, we use always a namespace prefixed attribute, i.e. its:version

<scribe> ACTION: felix to write a paragraph about the version attribute [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]

<scribe> ACTION: Processing expectations for directionality / ruby (DONE) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]

yves: discussed that and did decide not to change anything

<scribe> ACTION: Clarify relationship between host vocabulary markup data ... (DONE) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]

<YvesS> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3068

yves: talked about christians proposals, made some changes (see changemarks)

<scribe> ACTION: Metadata for rules necessary (DONE) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]

yves: we said to say: people should use the extension mechanism
... we changed example "Example 13: External file myRules.xml with global rules" to have an example for meta data

<scribe> ACTION: editor's to replace 'overwriting' with 'overriding' in the spec (DONE) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]

<scribe> ACTION: Yves and Felix to integrate the link related-stuff into the conformance section (DONE) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]

<scribe> ACTION: Everybody to think about which W3C working groups shoud comment on the tagset last call draft (PENDING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-minutes.html#action08]

yves: we need to know the last call date

felix: last schedule: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0014.html
... so we vote on the 17th, and publish on the 24th

yves: so the length will be 4-6 weeks

felix: please think about what groups you want to have feedback from within the next week

christian: XLink people?

felix: yes, and CDF working group

yves: could we ask them to review the section on http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset-diff-20060414.html#modularizations

felix: we thought of having this section in the techniques document

yves: Norman Walsh?

christian: semantic web people?
... RDF, OWL?
... XForms

yves: they have a data-driven format

christian: voice xml, svg?

<scribe> ACTION: Sebastian to give feedback on the 'overriding' change proposal, Diane to look at it again (DONE) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-minutes.html#action09]

yves: that is closed

<scribe> ACTION: Yves to write a paragraph on versioning for the tagset draft (DROPPED) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-minutes.html#action10]

summary of the two days of f2f

yves: no major change, only fine tuning, rewording

sebastian: we changed a lot about conformance
... it should be much clearer now

next f2f meeting

yves: we can have no meeting during the summer, i.e. July / August
... it is quite a while after the last call draft, so we have to answer from our summer holiday

felix: I might be in Montreal during the 6th to the 12th
... of August

Sebastian: I could not go anywhere in August

Diane: September is better for me

Yves: so the 5 of us are fine with 11th September, in Boulder

<scribe> ACTION: Yves to send a mail to ask for the dates of the next f2f [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-minutes.html#action11]

other business

felix: all, please look at the tagset draft

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: felix to write a paragraph about the version attribute [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-regular-call-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to send a mail to ask for the dates of the next f2f [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-regular-call-minutes.html#action11]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Everybody to think about which W3C working groups shoud comment on the tagset last call draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-regular-call-minutes.html#action08]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Versioning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-regular-call-minutes.html#action01]
[DONE] ACTION: Clarify relationship between host vocabulary markup data ... [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-regular-call-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: editor's to replace 'overwriting' with 'overriding' in the spec [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-regular-call-minutes.html#action06]
[DONE] ACTION: Metadata for rules necessary [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-regular-call-minutes.html#action05]
[DONE] ACTION: Processing expectations for directionality / ruby [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-regular-call-minutes.html#action03]
[DONE] ACTION: Sebastian to give feedback on the 'overriding' change proposal, Diane to look at it again [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-regular-call-minutes.html#action09]
[DONE] ACTION: Yves and Felix to integrate the link related-stuff into the conformance section [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-regular-call-minutes.html#action07]
 
[DROPPED] ACTION: Yves to write a paragraph on versioning for the tagset draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-i18nits-regular-call-minutes.html#action10]
 
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