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<trackbot> Date: 20 December 2005
<pauld> pauld: Paul_Downey
<scribe> scribe:JonC
Chair calls for appoval for previous minutes from 6th & 13 December
Minutes approved
<pauld> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/databinding/
Group is trialling use of Tracker for keeping track of group issues
PaulD ,Yves and Zjith volnteered already for editor roles
Paul will post blank documents to get ball rolling
pauld: action for vladislav to decompose issue and split into 2.
<pauld> ACTION: Vladislav to raise a separate issue for rationalle to appear in the Basic patterns for how structures are collected [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/20-databinding-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Vladislav
<scribe> ACTION: vladislav to raise seperate issue for rationale [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/20-databinding-minutes.html#action02]
<pauld> ACTION-1
pauld: we need to think about how we collect and structure patterns as one issue and desdcribe rationale seperately
Erik Johnson chair of WSI SWPWG has raised a specific issue over use of xs:integer
pauld: what do we do in this repect? Don't feel comfortable in restricting use of xs:integer
Sekhar: correct we cannot do this., but must be aware certain datatypes will not give us the optimum representation
pauld: suggests we craft some words aroud this area to guide rather than restrict
ajith: question about what we are producing, is it a clear subset of schema constructs and datatypes that work well
<scribe> ACTION: pauld to write to Erik with proposed text that will advise on the value space to use [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/20-databinding-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - pauld
<pauld> Jonc: thinking about how our documents and the test suite will be most useful
<pauld> .. suggest a standard way of generating example patterns so they can be easily wrapped in WSDL
<pauld> .. use standard namespace and element
<pauld> sekhar: do we host these tests somewhere?
<pauld> jonc: yes, not just a single (reference) endpoint - maybe implemented by others
<pauld> .. enables a databinder to echo the structure through a mapping
<pauld> sekhar: asks for clarification
<pauld> jonc: aims to turn examples mechanically into WSDL documents
<scribe> ACTION: JonC to produce strawman template for submitting examples [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/20-databinding-minutes.html#action04]
sekhar: last time was making point that w3c is already testing schema constructs, but recognises this is focused on web services and tooling
sekhar, what is the goal for this group? to include all of schema wg testsuite will be a LOT of work
pauld: agreed and there are
features that we already know will not give a good
experience
... will wait to see what JonC produces as strawman
pauld: There are other groups that collect/publish schema. Is there value in us creating a list of these resource
s /schema/toolkit resources/
pauld: doers anyone feel strong;ly about this. There cpould be a concern about creating somehting that looks like a registry
<scribe> ACTION: pauld to contact schema working group and see if we can re-use their list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/20-databinding-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - pauld
pauld: best dates for f2f is 30th
Jan 1st Feb
... cannot host in London, Nice is available
... participation may well be very low. Is there any value in
having only 5 people for f2f?
sekhar: value may be questionable, might be best to wait till plenary
pauld: will talk with Yves, may
re-issue/revamp questionairre over holidays, please keep an eye
out for it
... reminds group that next 2 telcons are cancelled. Next call
is scheduled for 10th January
... AOB?
none raised
<pauld> Chair: pauld
<pauld> s/pauld: Paul_Downey/Chair: pauld/
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