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WCAG WG weekly

21 Jul 2005

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
+1.613.482.aaaa, Michael_Cooper, Wendy, Bengt_Farre, David_MacDonald, Ben, Joe_Clark, Tim_Boland, Gian, rellero
Regrets
Roberto_Scano, Becky_Gibson, Gregg_Vanderheiden, John_Slatin, Sebastiano_Nutarelli, Alex_Li, Christophe_Strobbe, Yvette_Hoitink, matt_may, yvette_hoitink
Chair
Wendy
Scribe
David_

Contents


 

 

<wendy> agendum 1 = request for WCAG 1.0 interpretation regarding tables for layout. http://tinyurl.com/8drxs

<joeclark> I'll call back.

test

request for WCAG 1.0 interpretation regarding tables for layout. http://tinyurl.com/8drxs

wc: what would happen to our timeline if we ublished a revised WCAG 1.0
... perhaps a subgroup would go away and do a survey and get changes through quickly
... this also relates to mapping,

jc: googles kyn barteltt nov 2003, recommended this...only objection was can't do 2 things at once...but I don't think we can do both in the short time we have, among other reasons

wc: maybe just an errata of 1.0 would be doable

mc: I agree about difficulties in doing it. Charles is looking for an interpretation from the WG. Even if we posted an email to the list with a statement
... if we don't do that credibility will be an issue

<wendy> (an updated errata of wcag 1.0 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WAI-WEBCONTENT-ERRATA

Gian: many organizations have their own erratas...many people expect 2.0 this year...we are holding them back...but an erratta wil give them something to work with....organizaitons are expecting 2.0 any week and are putting off

wc: some are concerned that people might be less likely to move to 2.0 if we do an errata

<wendy> table at: http://www.w3.org/2003/12/wcag10-errata-table.html

wc: 1.0 priority 2 says "use style sheets for layout"

<joeclark> CSS techniques *permit* layout tables if they linearize correctly (an old chestnut, but it is in our techiques): http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-CSS-TECHS/#style-alignment

<wendy> table of possible errata from 2003: http://www.w3.org/2003/12/wcag10-errata-table.html

Mapping of 1.0 to 2.0 http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2005/06/30-mapping.html

no resolusion

resolution: wendy will make a survey

<scribe> ACTION: wc to make survey [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/21-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]

wording for principle 4 "Content is compatible with current user agents." or "Content is compatible with current and future user agents." or ???

tb: asks if mapping includes deprecated items from 1.0
... thnks the word deprecated should be used if it applies

<scribe> scribe: David_

removing [I] and [V] notation http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0104.html

<wendy> "content is compatible with user agents" ??

<Wonder> This is Gian

<wendy> ACTION: wendy JIS about Robust. forward defn of robust and determine if that helps them determine. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/21-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]

<wendy> resolution: wac check with JIS if can translate, use (s/tech/user agents) other wise use latest wording on list "compatible with c & f UA"

<wendy> resolution: remove [I] and [V] notation from drafts

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: wc to make survey [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/21-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: wendy JIS about Robust. forward defn of robust and determine if that helps them determine. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/21-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]
 
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