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Semantic Annotations for WSDL WG teleconference

21 Nov 2006

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
CB, CV, EP, HL, JK, PM, RA
Regrets
BNS, CP, JF, LF, LH, SD, TV
Chair
JacekK
Scribe
holger

Contents


agenda is approved

approval of minutes (postponed)

minutes will only be approved next meeting

minutes: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061113

action item review

<scribe> ACTION: EricP to add text gravy to his annotated Amazon WSDL and put it in Examples document [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action01]

discussing progress

action is done

<scribe> ACTION: Eric to add SPDL annotations to our example WSDLs [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action02]

ericP: in progress

jacekK: old action is closed, new opened

<JacekK> ACTION: Eric to upgrade the SPDL page for SAWSDL readers and then work things out with the Usage Guide [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action03]

<scribe> ACTION: EricP to get feedback from XMLCore about attrExtensions element [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action04]

ericP: they are not considering to adopt it.
... probably canonicalisation wg will want it.
... this does not require xml core involvement

jacekK: do we run later in a problem with a namespace issue since it is currently in sawsdl namespace

old action is closed and jackK opened a new action

<JacekK> ACTION: EricP to create a SAWSDL-independent namespace for attrExtensions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action05]

<scribe> ACTION: Editors to gather WSDL URIs and send them to Jack [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action06]

can be marked as done

<scribe> ACTION: TomasV to talk to SIOC people and find out if SAWSDL is usable there [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action07]

<scribe> ACTION: Jacek to coordinate with XML Schema Working Group whether we may emphasize (even in the title) that we annotate XML Schema. [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action08]

<scribe> ACTION: Rama and Amit to send suggestions for group page text (can reuse http://lsdis.cs.uga.edu/projects/meteor-s/SAWSDL/ ) [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action09]

<scribe> ACTION: Jacek to provide text on why we need to combine SPARQL with the other technologies in one direction and not the other. [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action10]

<scribe> ACTION: Carlos to reply to SEE TC that WSMO capability should be on WSDL interface, therefore we wouldn't do service annotations, and see if they agree [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action11]

<scribe> ACTION: Carlos to respond to issue LC 9 to SEE TC as well [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action12]

jacekK: Carlos should CC the list when doing the actions

<scribe> ACTION: Rama to formulate a reply to self on LC issues 14, 15 and 16 and seek agreement from original commentators [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action13]

<scribe> ACTION: JacekK to summarize the implementations table into formalized CR criteria [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action14]

Document status

jacekK: are there still any known last call reviewers?
... probably xml scema still outstanding, other all received

LC issue 5: many schema mapping technologies

jacekK: decision made to do only editorial changes
... waiting on actual wording, partly recorded as an action item

LC issue 13: External semantic annotations

jacekK: no news on this
... we won't wait for this too long before moving on to CR

issue 30: Clean up XSLT example in usage guide

rama: this is implemented

jacekK: issue will be closed

issue 31: Make all usage guide examples available as downloadable files

rama: is done

jacekK: issue will be closed

issue 32: Using WS-Policy as part of the semantic model

rama: not sure what to do here, who will contribute?

jacekK: to contact originator and ask for input

<JacekK> ACTION: Jacek to contact Karthik about issue 32 for him to contribute examples for the usage guide [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action15]

issue 33: Examples for associating Preconditions and Effects with Web Services

rama: pending, would love additional input

<JacekK> ACTION: Rama to send an email asking for contributions for issue 33 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action16]

claudio: issue 33 is of importance, having concrete work with HP
... having example is important for adoption of spec

jacekK: ordering of operation is described using ASMs in WSMO
... probably there are OWL-S examples existing

rama: what is with copyright?

jacekK: should not be a problem, if authors send email with cc to working group should be sufficient

rama: however it might happen that we need to daopt them to fit to current examples.

jacekK: AOB?

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Eric to upgrade the SPDL page for SAWSDL readers and then work things out with the Usage Guide [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: EricP to create a SAWSDL-independent namespace for attrExtensions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Jacek to contact Karthik about issue 32 for him to contribute examples for the usage guide [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action15]
[NEW] ACTION: Rama to send an email asking for contributions for issue 33 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action16]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Carlos to reply to SEE TC that WSMO capability should be on WSDL interface, therefore we wouldn't do service annotations, and see if they agree [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Carlos to respond to issue LC 9 to SEE TC as well [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Jacek to coordinate with XML Schema Working Group whether we may emphasize (even in the title) that we annotate XML Schema. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: Jacek to provide text on why we need to combine SPARQL with the other technologies in one direction and not the other. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action10]
[PENDING] ACTION: JacekK to summarize the implementations table into formalized CR criteria [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action14]
[PENDING] ACTION: Rama and Amit to send suggestions for group page text (can reuse http://lsdis.cs.uga.edu/projects/meteor-s/SAWSDL/ ) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: Rama to formulate a reply to self on LC issues 14, 15 and 16 and seek agreement from original commentators [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action13]
[PENDING] ACTION: TomasV to talk to SIOC people and find out if SAWSDL is usable there [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action07]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Editors to gather WSDL URIs and send them to Jack [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action06]
[DONE] ACTION: Eric to add SPDL annotations to our example WSDLs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action02]
[DONE] ACTION: EricP to add text gravy to his annotated Amazon WSDL and put it in Examples document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action01]
[DONE] ACTION: EricP to get feedback from XMLCore about attrExtensions element [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20061121#action04]