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<JacekK> scribe: carlos
RESOLUTION: both f2f and last telecon minutes approved
<JacekK> scribe: ericP
<scribe> ACTION: Terry to review last call of WSDL RDF mapping http://www.w3.org/TR/wsdl20-rdf/ by beginning of July [ONGOING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060704#action01]
<scribe> ACTION: EricP to review last call of WSDL RDF mapping http://www.w3.org/TR/wsdl20-rdf/ by beginning of July [ONGOING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060704#action02]
<scribe> ACTION: Amit and Rama (and anybody interested) to suggest definition of semantics [ONGOING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060704#action03]
<scribe> ACTION: ericP to use Amazon WSDL as a real concrete example [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060704#action04]
<scribe> ACTION: Rama to try and come up with a better annotation for the subsection "Annotating operations with model references" [ONGOING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060704#action05]
<scribe> ACTION: team contacts to let the editors know about the standard reference style [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060704#action06]
<scribe> ACTION: ericP to create the comments list public-ws-semann-comments [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060704#action07]
<scribe> ACTION: jacekk to check moving the f2f by one day later [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060704#action08]
PROPOSED: change next f2f August 30,31 in Turin, Italy
Jacek: the host has no problem with this
Laurent: +1
RESOLUTION: next f2f August 30,31 in Turin, Italy
Telcons telcons August 1, August 8 cancelled
Other chair for July 18, July 25 (volunteers?)
<JacekK> scribe: carlos
Jacek: first draft published
Jacek: open issue about this? Our intention is currently reflected in the draft.
John: put something in the examples doc
Jacek: no issue to be generated
Jacek: Kunal and John propose generating a transitive closure
... not necessary and perhaps even incorrect
... proposes modelRef to apply in their scope
... it should not propagate through interface extension
John: what happens if there is one in the parent?
Jacek: the modelRef on this parent interface applies to those operations included in the extended interface
Eric: no possibility to preclude contradicting refs
... what happens when different languages are used?
Jacek: this applies when several people are annotating
Eric: you might get partial interpretations
Laurent: two semantics possible extension and specialization
Jacek: summary: inheritance interesting
Laurent: in specialization, the super axioms apply; in extension, the super axioms apply to something disconnected from the extension, so additiveness would be ok th
Jacek: Kunal and John proposed the modelRefs to apply on extending interfaces
RESOLUTION: model references from extended interfaces also apply on extending interface
John: not very important at the moment
Laurent: agrees
APPROVED to defer
John: have a deep look on it
Eric: volunteers?
claudio: previously proposed backward compatibility to support Parlay X WS
... big percent of published services will be based on WSDL 1.1
... we should put effort on this to find implementors
John: create a group (task force?) for this
<scribe> ACTION: John, Kunal, Claudio to revise section on mapping to WSDL 1.1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060704#action09]
Laura: base this on the case study
Claudio: will send a draft on the case study
... on Parlay X about defining backward compatible solution for WSDL 1.1
... will be done during this week
Jacek: can be closed as obsolete
RESOLUTION: close issue 12 as obsolete
Jacek: focus on examples and WSDL 1.1 for the future
Eric: provide more examples
Jacek: future telecons to discuss the Amazon example from Eric