- From: Jeanne Spellman <jeanne@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:03:57 -0500
- To: AUWG <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
Minutes:
http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-minutes
IRC log:
http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-irc
Text of Minutes
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
WAI AU
14 Dec 2009
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009OctDec/0055.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-irc
Attendees
Present
+1.410.723.aaaa, Greg_Pisocky, Jan, Jeanne, SueAnn,
Tim_Boland(partial)
Regrets
Jutta, T.
Chair
Jan Richards
Scribe
SueAnn
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]1- Organizing reviews
2. [6]2- Drawing issue for A.3.1.5 Keyboard
3. [7]3- WAI-PF's (unoffical) comments
* [8]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
<Jan> Scribe: SueAnn
1- Organizing reviews
<Jan>
[9]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009OctDec/0055.ht
ml
[9]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009OctDec/0055.html
<Jan> GP: Thinks Adobe comments can be delivered by Dec 21
<Jan> SN: More IBM comments coming - will be posting by tomorrow
<Jan> TB: No comments so far
<Jan> JR: Needs to follow up on comments from around here + Reed
from Microsoft says he has sonme
2- Drawing issue for A.3.1.5 Keyboard
<Jan> [10]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/07-au-minutes.html#ActionSummary
[10] http://www.w3.org/2009/12/07-au-minutes.html#ActionSummary
GP: Thought this was close,
<Jan>
[11]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009OctDec/0050.h
tml
[11]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009OctDec/0050.html
thought this was closed
GP will run the language by Adobe one more time
Jan requested everyone review A.3.1.5 Keyboard language, Message 50
3- WAI-PF's (unoffical) comments
<Jan>
[12]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009OctDec/0058.h
tml
[12]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009OctDec/0058.html
Applicability Notes - "image label" should be text alternative -
<Jan> ACTION: JR to Change: "image label" to "text alternative"
[recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-212 - Change: "image label" to "text
alternative" [on Jan Richards - due 2009-12-21].
A.3.1.2 - JR has a recommendation, but defer for a while
<Jan> ACTION: JR to Change A.3.1.3 "No Keyboard Traps" [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-213 - Change A.3.1.3 "No Keyboard Traps"
[on Jan Richards - due 2009-12-21].
<Jan>
[15]http://jan.atrc.utoronto.ca/public/atag/MASTER-20091130.html
[15] http://jan.atrc.utoronto.ca/public/atag/MASTER-20091130.html
<Jan>
[16]http://jan.atrc.utoronto.ca/public/atag/MASTER-20091130.html#sc_
a315
[16]
http://jan.atrc.utoronto.ca/public/atag/MASTER-20091130.html#sc_a315
Jan reviewed UAWG 2 working to see if there was something there that
would model what's needed for key keyboard shortcuts.
Jean recommends the UAAG 2.0 working 4.1.8 Important Command
Functions: Important command functions (e.g.
related to navigation, display, content, information management,
etc.)
are available using a single or sequence of keystrokes or key
combinations. (Level AA)
<Jan> ACTION: JR to re: A.3.1.5 Keyboard Shortcuts - current wording
is OK - but needs justification (perhaps more intent) [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-214 - Re: A.3.1.5 Keyboard Shortcuts -
current wording is OK - but needs justification (perhaps more
intent) [on Jan Richards - due 2009-12-21].
<Jan> JR: Plus they have this requirement which is quite useful:
<Jan> 4.1.12 Present Direct Commands in User Interface: The user has
the
<Jan> option to have any direct commands (e.g. keyboard shortcuts)
in the user
<Jan> agent user interface be presented with their associated user
interface
<Jan> controls (e.g. "Ctrl+S" displayed on the "Save" menu item and
toolbar
<Jan> button). (Level AA)
<Jan>
[18]http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/2009/ED-UAAG20-20091105/#principle-oper
able
[18]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/2009/ED-UAAG20-20091105/#principle-operable
<Jan> SN: OK at AAA
<Jan> GP: OK
<Jan> JS: Would like to see it in
<Jan> ACTION: JR to To propose a way to bring a req like UAAG2
4.1.12 Present Direct Commands in User Interface into ATAG2 at Level
AAA [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-215 - Propose a way to bring a req like
UAAG2 4.1.12 Present Direct Commands in User Interface into ATAG2 at
Level AAA [on Jan Richards - due 2009-12-21].
<Jan> A.3.1.6 Drawing Keyboard Access (Enhanced): Any drawing
functionality of the authoring tool is operable through a keyboard
interface. (Level AAA) [Implementing A.3.1.6]
<Jan> Note 1: It is possible to implement keyboard access directly
(e.g., keyboard-driven manipulation of drawing objects) or
indirectly (e.g., keyboard editing of drawing object property
values).
<Jan> Note 2: This success criterion should not be interpreted as
discouraging mouse input or other input methods in addition to
keyboard operation.
Jan does not feel we should be requiring one method over the other
JS agrees
<Jan> ACTION: JR to Propose rewording of A.3.1.6 to include both
direct and indirect authoring. [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-216 - Propose rewording of A.3.1.6 to
include both direct and indirect authoring. [on Jan Richards - due
2009-12-21].
Comment: A.3.2.1 Data Saved
>
> Note: For web-based authoring tools, this applies to any web
content
> that has already been submitted to the server by the user agent.
>
> I wonder if it would make sense to have a AAA SC that provides for
> automatically submitting content in such a system?
JS Agrees
GP Ok
<Jan> ACTION: JR to Propose wording for a "Data Saved (Extended)
Level AAA" [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-217 - Propose wording for a "Data Saved
(Extended) Level AAA" [on Jan Richards - due 2009-12-21].
SN Ok
Comment: A.3.5.1 Text Search: The author(s) can perform text
searches of web
> content in which all of the following are true: (Level AA)
>
> (a) Search All Editable: The search can be within any information
that
> is text and that the authoring tool can modify (e.g., text
content, text
> alternatives for non-text content, metadata, markup elements and
> attributes, etc.); and
>
> Does "The search can be" mean "The search MUST be" or "The search
MAY be"?
<Jan> ACTION: JR to Reword A.3.5.1 to "Any information that is text
and that the authoring tool can modify is searchable." [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-minutes.html#action07]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-218 - Reword A.3.5.1 to "Any information
that is text and that the authoring tool can modify is searchable."
[on Jan Richards - due 2009-12-21].
SN Agree
Comment: > Note: If the current editing view is not able to display
the results of
> a search then the authoring tool may switch to a different editing
view
> to display the results (e.g., to a source content editing view to
> display search results within markup tags).
>
> I would hope that the authoring tool won't do this automatically,
as
> that could be quite unexpected and jarring. Perhaps this should
say
> that the authoring tool could provide a mechanism for the author
to switch?
<jeanne> Note: If the current editing view is not able to display
the results of
<jeanne> > a search then the authoring tool may switch to a
different editing view
<jeanne> > to display the results (e.g., to a source content editing
view to
<jeanne> > display search results within markup tags).
<jeanne> Note: If the current editing view is not able to display
the results of
<jeanne> a search then the authoring tool may switch to a different
editing view
<jeanne> to display the results (e.g., to a source content editing
view to
<jeanne> display search results within markup tags).
<jeanne> then the authoring tool may provide a mechanism to switch
to a different editing view...
Jan - Ok
<Jan> ACTION: JR to In A.3.5.1 Note to insert "then the authoring
tool may provide a mechanism to switch to a different editing
view..." NAD to add example of a switch mechanism such as listing
the editing view that will open in the search results list [recorded
in [23]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-minutes.html#action08]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-219 - In A.3.5.1 Note to insert "then the
authoring tool may provide a mechanism to switch to a different
editing view..." NAD to add example of a switch mechanism such as
listing the editing view that will open in the search results list
[on Jan Richards - due 2009-12-21].
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: JR to Change A.3.1.3 "No Keyboard Traps" [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: JR to Change: "image label" to "text alternative"
[recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: JR to In A.3.5.1 Note to insert "then the authoring
tool may provide a mechanism to switch to a different editing
view..." NAD to add example of a switch mechanism such as listing
the editing view that will open in the search results list [recorded
in [26]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: JR to Propose rewording of A.3.1.6 to include both
direct and indirect authoring. [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: JR to Propose wording for a "Data Saved (Extended)
Level AAA" [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: JR to re: A.3.1.5 Keyboard Shortcuts - current wording
is OK - but needs justification (perhaps more intent) [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: JR to Reword A.3.5.1 to "Any information that is text
and that the authoring tool can modify is searchable." [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: JR to To propose a way to bring a req like UAAG2
4.1.12 Present Direct Commands in User Interface into ATAG2 at Level
AAA [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/14-au-minutes.html#action04]
[End of minutes]
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