RE: ACTION-837 - Provide explanatory text for the addendum...ISSUE-272 a new name ISSUE-273 for which document? ISSUE-274 which textsare needed?

El jue, 11-09-2008 a las 17:01 +0200, Scheppe, Kai-Dietrich escribió:
> Hi Manrique,
> 
> Jo did already cover your points and I agree with him.
> Unfortunately you did come into this group rather late and so you missed
> out on the many and lengthy discussions we have had on many of the
> points you have made.
> Jo's answers summarize this rather well. 
> 

And I thanks Jo for the summary ;-)

> 
> > I would like to remember that sometime ago, some comments 
> > were made about the tests themselves and it seems that none 
> > of that comments were discussed or taken into consideration:
> > 
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg-pro/2008Jun/0005.html
> > 
> > That's what I've tried...
> 
> And your input was extremely valuable.
> There were questions, which I hope had been answered over the course of
> time, especially because some were similiar to those here in that they
> had been discussed in the group long ago.
> Some of your input was cautionary, which was taken into account.
> For some I made a decision as editor one way or the other.
> ...
> 
> I don't remember the details, but if you feel that substantial changes
> were agreed upon in the Task Force and not executed, please do point
> that out.
> 

Mostly of my points are about the text and "wording" in the tests, and
as far as I can remember, the texts weren't discussed after the document
was rewritten before Sophia's F2F. Just to remember those that still
apply in the latest version of the document:

4.1 Access Keys
We have "primary navigation links" in the "interpretation" but
"navigation links and form controls" in the "procedure". Should it be
the same text in both sections?

4.3 Avoid Free Text
Take care that a "finite number" can be very big. Perhaps it would be
better a "reasonable finite number".

4.4 Background Image Readability
Perhaps, it would be better adding reference to WCAG 2.0 tests instead
of Ishihara in the examples.

4.9 Clarity
Maybe we could take some 'info' or resources from WCAG2.0 effort to make
the description "richer".
References: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#understandable

4.12 Control Labeling
How can a machine (easily) test that the label does not describe the
purpose of the form control?
Perhaps not so 100% machine testable as "Note to BPWG" says.

Open issues: Are empty labels "" acceptable, if the meaning of the field
is made clear in some other fashion? 
Perhaps for search boxes or date entry boxes?

4.19 Link Target ID
In the "Note to BPWG", the "title" attribute could be added to define
"ID".

4.22 Navigation
What is the "sample"? I think it was in the original mobileOK Pro
document, but it seems that it has been removed in this document, so the
procedure may be not too clear

4.26 Page Title
I think that second test may conflicts with third example:
Test: Does the title repeat unchanged across more than 3 pages? If yes [FAIL]
Example: a title of "Uncle Tom's Cabin" in an ebook page, across many pages, would be perfectly acceptable

4.38 Use of color
It says: "Excluding hyperlinks, does the page include any other blue or
purple text? If yes, [FAIL]"
Then, I should put the links in blue or purple, shouldn't I?

Shouldn't it be better something like:
Excluding hyperlinks, does the page include any other text with same
color than hyperlinks? If yes, [FAIL]

Best regards,
-- 
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