RE: ISSUE-213 (text outline): Advance notice of deprecation for textOutline [TTML.next]

I am fine with adding textShadow.  My concern was how we handle textOutline. So, remaining silent in SE and just dealing with them both when the time comes is a good course, I think.

 

                Mike

 

From: Sean Hayes [mailto:Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 2:51 AM
To: Michael Dolan; Glenn Adams
Cc: Pierre-Anthony Lemieux; Timed Text Working Group
Subject: RE: ISSUE-213 (text outline): Advance notice of deprecation for textOutline [TTML.next]

 

I’m OK with that plan. I do think that we should add the textShadow property as well in v.next however, as its not a 1-1 match with textOutline .

 

From: Michael Dolan [mailto:mdolan@newtbt.com] 
Sent: 24 May 2013 01:21
To: Glenn Adams
Cc: Pierre-Anthony Lemieux; Timed Text Working Group
Subject: Re: ISSUE-213 (text outline): Advance notice of deprecation for textOutline [TTML.next]

 

Concur to be silent for now.

Sent from my phone


On May 23, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com> wrote:

I'd suggest we not do anything in SE, and that in the mapping we define in .next, we simply map to text-shadow in the HTML/CSS mapping rules. I think the absence of literal support for 'text-outline' in browsers doesn't affect this usage.

 

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com> wrote:

> I suggest we put a note in the SE to the effect that we intend to deprecate this in v.next and replace it in v-next with textShadow.

Do you mean only in the context of a mapping to HTML, not in general?

Thanks,

-- Pierre


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Michael Dolan <mdolan@newtbt.com> wrote:
> Ok in concept for v. Next but object to any hint that a decoder would be permitted to ignore the current attribute.
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> Sent from my phone
>
> On May 23, 2013, at 6:55 AM, "Timed Text Working Group Issue Tracker" <sysbot+tracker@w3.org <mailto:sysbot%2Btracker@w3.org> > wrote:
>
>> ISSUE-213 (text outline): Advance notice of deprecation for textOutline [TTML.next]
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>> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/213
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>> Raised by: Sean Hayes
>> On product: TTML.next
>>
>> All of the major browsers have declined to implement text-outline, and as a result it is dropped from CSS3. Instead they have adopted text-shadow which is probably sufficient for our needs.
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>> e.g. try :
>> .region {
>>      background-color:grey;
>> }
>> p {
>>    color:white;
>>    text-shadow: 0px 0px 1px black , 0px 0px 3px black, 0px 0px 3px black;
>> }
>>
>> I suggest we put a note in the SE to the effect that we intend to deprecate this in v.next and replace it in v-next with textShadow.
>>
>>
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>