ISSUE-86: HTML5 relaxes Atom requirement on atom:id stability
atom-id-stability
HTML5 relaxes Atom requirement on atom:id stability
- State:
- CLOSED
- Product:
- HTML 5 spec
- Raised by:
- Julian Reschke
- Opened on:
- 2009-10-23
- Description:
- From http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#atom:
"9...
Otherwise
Let id be a user-agent-defined undereferenceable yet globally unique valid absolute URL. The same absolute URL should be generated for each run of this algorithm when given the same input. Let has-alternate be false."
But RFC 4287 states:
"When an Atom Document is relocated, migrated, syndicated, republished, exported, or imported, the content of its atom:id element MUST NOT change." -- http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc4287.html#rfc.section.4.2.6
So it appears that HTML5 tries to relax that requirement.
Suggested fix: either just reference the requirement in the base spec, or make it a "must".
Furthermore, HTML5 requires "undereferenceable", while RFC 4287 does not.
See http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7806.
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- Re: [whatwg] ISSUE-86, Re: hixie: Remove the HTML-to-Atom mapping definition from the W3C version of the spec. (whatwg r5100) (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-06-11)
- Re: [whatwg] ISSUE-86, Re: hixie: Remove the HTML-to-Atom mapping definition from the W3C version of the spec. (whatwg r5100) (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-06-05)
- ISSUE-86, Re: hixie: Remove the HTML-to-Atom mapping definition from the W3C version of the spec. (whatwg r5100) (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-06-02)
- Re: CfC: Adopt ISSUE-86 Change Proposal to remove Atom conversion (from ian@hixie.ch on 2010-06-02)
- Re: CfC: Adopt ISSUE-86 Change Proposal to remove Atom conversion (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-06-01)
- RE: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-05-27 (from adrianba@microsoft.com on 2010-05-27)
- Re: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-05-27 (from faulkner.steve@gmail.com on 2010-05-27)
- Re: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-05-27 (from laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com on 2010-05-27)
- {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-05-27 (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-05-26)
- {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-05-20: Surveys close, Publishing new Working Drafts (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-05-19)
- CfC: Adopt ISSUE-86 Change Proposal to remove Atom conversion (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-05-18)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from jackalmage@gmail.com on 2010-05-17)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-05-15)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-04-20)
- Minutes of HTML WG meeting, Apr 15 2010 (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-04-19)
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- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from jackalmage@gmail.com on 2010-04-15)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from hober0@gmail.com on 2010-04-15)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-04-15)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-04-15)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from ian@hixie.ch on 2010-04-15)
- Re: looking for the use case for HTML->Atom conversion (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-04-15)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from hober0@gmail.com on 2010-04-15)
- Re: looking for the use case for HTML->Atom conversion (from hober0@gmail.com on 2010-04-15)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-04-15)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from hober0@gmail.com on 2010-04-15)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2010-04-15)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-04-15)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-04-15)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-04-15)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-04-15)
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- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-04-15)
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- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-04-14)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-04-14)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from ian@hixie.ch on 2010-04-14)
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- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-04-09)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2010-04-09)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-04-09)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-04-09)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2010-04-09)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-04-09)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-04-08)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2010-04-08)
- Minutes of HTML WG meeting, Apr 8 2010 (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-04-08)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-04-08)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-04-08)
- {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-04-08: calls for proposals, issue status (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-04-07)
- Re: change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-04-06)
- change proposal for issue-86, was: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-04-06)
- Deadlines for ISSUE-82 and ISSUE-86 extended; warning about future deadlines (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-04-06)
- [minutes] 2010-04-01 HTML Teleconference (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-04-01)
- Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-04-01: action items, decision policy update, issue status (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2010-03-30)
- {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-04-01: action items, decision policy update, issue status (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-03-30)
- {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-04-01: action items, decision policy update, issue status (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-03-30)
- RE: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-03-17: various issues (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-03-18)
- RE: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-03-17: various issues (from adrianba@microsoft.com on 2010-03-18)
- Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-03-17: various issues (from laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com on 2010-03-18)
- {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-03-17: various issues (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-03-17)
- Re: Breakdown of issues (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-03-12)
- Breakdown of issues (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-03-12)
- Re: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-02-24)
- Re: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-02-24)
- Re: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-02-24)
- Re: ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-02-23)
- Re: Issue 85 and (from faulkner.steve@gmail.com on 2010-02-18)
- RE: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-02-18: actions, issues, publication (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-02-18)
- RE: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-02-18: actions, issues, publication (from geoff_freed@wgbh.org on 2010-02-17)
- Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-02-18: actions, issues, publication (from janina@rednote.net on 2010-02-17)
- {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-02-18: actions, issues, publication (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-02-17)
- [VER 2] {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-01-21: AIs, CfC/CfPs, and heartbeat docs (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-01-21)
- Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-01-21: AIs, CfC/CfPs, and heartbeat docs (from singer@apple.com on 2010-01-21)
- ISSUE-86 - atom-id-stability - Chairs Solicit Proposals (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-01-20)
- {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-01-21: AIs, CfC/CfPs, and heartbeat docs (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-01-20)
- {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-01-21: AIs, CfC/CfPs, and heartbeat docs (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-01-20)
- minutes Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-10-29: issues, action items, calls for consensus/proposals, task forces, F2F... (from cooper@w3.org on 2009-10-29)
- Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-10-29: issues, action items, calls for consensus/proposals, task forces, F2F... (from singer@apple.com on 2009-10-29)
- {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-10-29: issues, action items, calls for consensus/proposals, task forces, F2F... (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-10-28)
- [Bug 7806] atom ID element generation for feed entries (from bugzilla@wiggum.w3.org on 2009-10-23)
- ISSUE-86 (atom-id-stability): HTML5 relaxes Atom requirement on atom:id stability [HTML 5 spec] (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2009-10-23)
Related notes:
Moving to OPEN state because we have a volunteer to write a proposal.
Maciej Stachowiak, 17 Mar 2010, 01:24:48Related thread on atom-syntax mailing list: http://www.imc.org/atom-syntax/mail-archive/msg21395.html
Julian Reschke, 8 Apr 2010, 07:52:23Display change log