ISSUE-20

table-headers

Improvements to the table-headers algorithm in the HTML 5 spec

State:
OPEN
Product:
HTML 5 spec
Raised by:
James Graham
Opened on:
2007-11-21
Description:
The table headers algorithm currently in the HTML 5 spec does not deal with some common table formats without significant additional markup using @scope.

The algorithm to establish cell-header relationships in the absence of specific scoping for header cells can probably be improved in line with suggestions in the following urls:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Sep/0134.html
http://projectcerbera.com/blog/2007/11#day09
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Mar/0075.html with a sample implementation at http://james.html5.org/tables/table_inspector.html (choose "Smart Headers")

This issue will also cover aspects previously in Issue 57, such as:

- retaining headers/id functionality
- current or backwards compatibility
- grandfathering headers/id into the spec until it can be demonstrated
that the HTML5 replacement works better and is in service
Related Actions Items:
Related emails:
  1. function and impacts (was: @scope and @headers reform) (from alfred.s.gilman@ieee.org on 2008-09-14)
  2. {minutes} HTML WG telcon 2008-09-04 - html5&xslt, @profile, void elements (from mike@w3.org on 2008-09-05)
  3. HTML WG telcon 2008-09-04 - @headers, html5&xslt, @profile (from mike@w3.org on 2008-09-04)
  4. Re: Deliverable for Action 72 @headers (from jg307@cam.ac.uk on 2008-08-28)
  5. HTML WG telcon 2008-08-28 (from Chris.Wilson@microsoft.com on 2008-08-26)
  6. Re: table headers - clear description of problem (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-08-26)
  7. Can ISSUE-20 used for your concern over bug 5822? (from soypunk@gmail.com on 2008-07-10)
  8. {minutes} HTML WG issue-tracking telcon 2008-06-26 (from mike@w3.org on 2008-07-09)
  9. Re: @headers on th too or just td? (from rob@robburns.com on 2008-06-27)
  10. Re: @headers on th too or just td? (from rob@robburns.com on 2008-06-27)
  11. Re: @headers on th too or just td? (from lhs@malform.no on 2008-06-27)
  12. Re: @headers on th too or just td? (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-06-26)
  13. Re: @headers on th too or just td? (from rob@robburns.com on 2008-06-26)
  14. Re: @headers on th too or just td? (from chaals@opera.com on 2008-06-26)
  15. Re: several messages about tables and related subjects (from ian@hixie.ch on 2008-03-23)
  16. Re: ISSUE-20 (table-headers): Improvements to the table-headers algorithm in the HTML 5 spec [HTML 5 spec] (from jg307@cam.ac.uk on 2008-01-28)
  17. Re: ISSUE-20 (table-headers): Improvements to the table-headers algorithm in the HTML 5 spec [HTML 5 spec] (from jg307@cam.ac.uk on 2007-11-22)
  18. Re: ISSUE-20 (table-headers): Improvements to the table-headers algorithm in the HTML 5 spec [HTML 5 spec] (from cerbera@projectcerbera.com on 2007-11-22)
  19. ISSUE-20 (table-headers): Improvements to the table-headers algorithm in the HTML 5 spec [HTML 5 spec] (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2007-11-21)

Related notes:

2008-03-23 19:31:00: Resolved by changes to the spec to make <th>/<td> association cleverer. [Ian Hickson]

2008-08-22 17:27:37: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Aug/0521.html [Joshue O Connor]

2008-08-22 17:30:08: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Aug/0541.html [Joshue O Connor]

2008-08-22 17:30:50: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Aug/0561.html [Joshue O Connor]

2008-08-26 13:51:52: moving back to OPEN based on:

"There is a lot of feedback on the table issue that hasn't yet been
considered"
-- Ian Hickson Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:27:06 +0000
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Aug/0760.html [Dan Connolly]

2008-09-08 13:52:57: Action 72 Deliverable:
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/Action72Headers

Discussion on public-html for Deliverable for Action 72 @headers
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Aug/thread.html#msg518
table headers - clear description of problem
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Aug/thread.html#msg679
@headers issue resolved
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Aug/thread.html#msg901

Previous teleconf discussions:
28 Aug 2008 meeting:
http://www.w3.org/2008/08/28-html-wg-minutes.html
17 July 2008 meeting (Rough IRC Teleconf minutes only):
http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/html-wg/20080717#l-394
7 July 2008 meeting:
http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-html-wg-minutes.html#item06

Bug Report 5822:
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5822

Testing (summer 2008):
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/TableHeadersTestingBug5822

Previous Testing:
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/TableAccessibility

@headers Issue History:
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/IssueTableHeaders

@headers has been an issue since May 2007
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/IssueTableHeaders#head-bac4baeb0cd0ea09b7f76ff9c409740257566408 [Joshue O Connor]

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