eGovernment Interest Group - Data_Catalog_Vocabulary Subgroup

Minutes of 15 April 2010

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/2010-04-15
Present
Brand Niemann, Ed Summers, George Thomas, Martín Álvarez, Richard Cyganiak, Sandro Hawke, Vassilios Peristeras
Guests
Paul Hermans, Peter Krantz, Rufus Pollock, Kate Geyer, David James, Libby Miller, Luigi Montanez
Chair
Richard Cyganiak
Scribe
Sandro Hawke
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions

None.

Topics
<sandro> Guest: Paul (PaulZH) Hermans
<sandro> Guest: Peter Krantz
<sandro> Guest: Rufus Pollock
<sandro> Guest: Kate Geyer
<sandro> Guest: David James
<sandro> Guest: Libby Miller
<sandro> Guest: Luigi Montanez
<sandro> Chair: cygri
<sandro> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/2010-04-15
<sandro> Present: brand, edsu, george, martin_spain, cygri, sandro, vassilios
15:06:34 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/04/15-egov-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/04/15-egov-irc

15:07:07 <LuigiMontanez> The link to Richard's pdf seems to be down

Luigi Montanez: The link to Richard's pdf seems to be down

15:07:42 <Zakim> + +0122369aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +0122369aacc

15:07:57 <Zakim> +Brand

Zakim IRC Bot: +Brand

15:07:58 <sandro> zakim, Sunlight has Luigi Montanez and David James

Sandro Hawke: zakim, Sunlight has Luigi Montanez and David James

15:08:02 <Zakim> +Luigi, Montanez, David, James; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Luigi, Montanez, David, James; got it

15:08:15 <sandro> zakim, aacc is Rufus

Sandro Hawke: zakim, aacc is Rufus

15:08:15 <Zakim> +Rufus; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Rufus; got it

15:08:37 <cygri> dcat slides, alternative location: http://www.slideshare.net/cygri/dcat-foregovig

Richard Cyganiak: dcat slides, alternative location: http://www.slideshare.net/cygri/dcat-foregovig

15:08:39 <sandro> zakim, Sunlight has Luigi_Montanez and  David_James

Sandro Hawke: zakim, Sunlight has Luigi_Montanez and David_James

15:08:39 <Zakim> +Luigi_Montanez, David_James; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Luigi_Montanez, David_James; got it

15:09:14 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call?

15:09:14 <Zakim> On the phone I see PeterKrantz, cygri, Sunlight, martin_spain, Sandro, Paul, George, kate_geyer, edsu, vassilios, Rufus (muted), Brand

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see PeterKrantz, cygri, Sunlight, martin_spain, Sandro, Paul, George, kate_geyer, edsu, vassilios, Rufus (muted), Brand

15:09:16 <Zakim> Sunlight has Luigi_Montanez, David_James

Zakim IRC Bot: Sunlight has Luigi_Montanez, David_James

15:11:12 <sandro> scribe: Sandro

(Scribe set to Sandro Hawke)

15:11:19 <sandro> topic: Admin

1. Admin

15:11:33 <sandro> cygri: We're here at this first meeting to talk about data catalog issues

Richard Cyganiak: We're here at this first meeting to talk about data catalog issues

15:13:45 <edsu> the wiki sandro mentioned: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Main_Page

Ed Summers: the wiki sandro mentioned: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Main_Page

15:14:40 <cygri> initially we will use the general public-egov-ig@w3.org mailing list. put [dcat] in the subject line

Richard Cyganiak: initially we will use the general public-egov-ig@w3.org mailing list. put [dcat] in the subject line

15:14:58 <sandro> topic: Introductions -- Who is Here

2. Introductions -- Who is Here

15:16:10 <sandro> some information about people here: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary#Participants

some information about people here: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary#Participants

15:16:23 <sandro> Richard Cyganiak from DERI

Richard Cyganiak from DERI

15:17:17 <PeterKrantz> Hi!

Peter Krantz: Hi!

15:17:19 <sandro> ... we dont have a data catalog ourself, but we've done a survey and produced the dcat vocabylary as a starting point

... we dont have a data catalog ourself, but we've done a survey and produced the dcat vocabylary as a starting point

15:17:26 <PeterKrantz> My mike seems to be broken

Peter Krantz: My mike seems to be broken

15:17:30 <PeterKrantz> I can hear you all

Peter Krantz: I can hear you all

15:17:33 <sandro> Peter Krantz

Peter Krantz

15:17:39 <PeterKrantz> Ok I do it on IRC

Peter Krantz: Ok I do it on IRC

15:17:46 <PeterKrantz> ?

Peter Krantz: ?

15:17:55 <sandro> Luigi_Montanez, David_James from Sunlight

Luigi_Montanez, David_James from Sunlight

15:17:58 <edsu> PeterKrantz: please type your intro into IRC yes

Peter Krantz: please type your intro into IRC yes [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ]

15:18:29 <sandro> david-james: we're working on a "national catalog" a catalog of catalogs.   we did a blog post a few weeks ago.   loose process; we'd like to collaborate.

David James: we're working on a "national catalog" a catalog of catalogs. we did a blog post a few weeks ago. loose process; we'd like to collaborate.

15:18:32 <LuigiMontanez> http://wiki.sunlightlabs.com/Government_Data_Catalog_Guidelines

Luigi Montanez: http://wiki.sunlightlabs.com/Government_Data_Catalog_Guidelines

15:19:03 <sandro> LuigiMontanez: see link about to our work here, on govts in US.      ideas on good data catalogs.

Luigi Montanez: see link about to our work here, on govts in US. ideas on good data catalogs.

15:19:32 <edsu> martin_spain: are you on mute?

Martín Álvarez: are you on mute? [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ]

15:19:34 <sandro> Martín Álvarez ( martin_spain from CTIC )

Martín Álvarez ( martin_spain from CTIC )

15:19:39 <sandro> zakim, who is muted?

zakim, who is muted?

15:19:39 <Zakim> I see no one muted

Zakim IRC Bot: I see no one muted

15:19:41 <martin_spain> can you hear me?

Martín Álvarez: can you hear me?

15:20:00 <martin_spain> i'll try to recall

Martín Álvarez: i'll try to recall

15:20:16 <Zakim> -martin_spain

Zakim IRC Bot: -martin_spain

15:20:42 <Zakim> +martin_spain

Zakim IRC Bot: +martin_spain

15:21:42 <martin_spain> http://datos.fundacionctic.org/sandbox/catalog/index.html.en

Martín Álvarez: http://datos.fundacionctic.org/sandbox/catalog/index.html.en

15:21:53 <martin_spain> http://datos.fundacionctic.org/sandbox/catalog/catalogos.rdf

Martín Álvarez: http://datos.fundacionctic.org/sandbox/catalog/catalogos.rdf

15:22:18 <sandro> Peter Krantz from Sweden

Peter Krantz from Sweden

15:22:23 <PeterKrantz> Ok, I run the opengov.se website. It is based on an open source catalog http://code.google.com/p/opengov-catalog/ where I implemented metadata using Dublin Core / FOAF / RDF (see example item here: http://pastie.org/921360). It is carried over an Atom feed (http://www.opengov.se/feeds/data/). I am currently on parental leave from the Swedish eGovernment delegation.

Peter Krantz: Ok, I run the opengov.se website. It is based on an open source catalog http://code.google.com/p/opengov-catalog/ where I implemented metadata using Dublin Core / FOAF / RDF (see example item here: http://pastie.org/921360). It is carried over an Atom feed (http://www.opengov.se/feeds/data/). I am currently on parental leave from the Swedish eGovernment delegation.

15:23:43 <sandro> George Thomas, US Dept of Health and Human Services, work with us data.gov

George Thomas, US Dept of Health and Human Services, work with us data.gov

15:23:59 <sandro> Kate Geyer, massachusetts govt

Kate Geyer, massachusetts govt

15:24:04 <kate_geyer> I work on the Massachusetts, US data datalog http://wiki.state.ma.us/data. We have no metadata standards implemented here

Kate Geyer: I work on the Massachusetts, US data datalog http://wiki.state.ma.us/data. We have no metadata standards implemented here

15:25:10 <sandro> Ed Summers, US Library of Congress.   I work  on a repository dev team, managing data assets within LoC.    I'm also interested in encouraging making data.gov more harvestable.

Ed Summers, US Library of Congress. I work on a repository dev team, managing data assets within LoC. I'm also interested in encouraging making data.gov more harvestable.

15:25:50 <david-james> can you speak up?

David James: can you speak up?

15:25:59 <vassilios> Vassilios Peristeras

Vassilios Peristeras: Vassilios Peristeras

15:26:01 <sandro> Vassilios Peristeras, DERI,  I do eGovernment at DERI

Vassilios Peristeras, DERI, I do eGovernment at DERI

15:26:18 <PeterKrantz> Yes

Peter Krantz: Yes

15:26:23 <david-james> Yes we can hear

David James: Yes we can hear

15:26:48 <sandro> Rufus Pollock    okfn.org

Rufus Pollock okfn.org

15:27:08 <PeterKrantz> See http://www.ckan.net/

Peter Krantz: See http://www.ckan.net/

15:27:11 <sandro> being used for data.gov.uk and other places

being used for data.gov.uk and other places

15:27:42 <sandro> rufus: we've already done a lot on this, made world.ckan.net trying to follow dcat spec

Rufus Pollock: we've already done a lot on this, made world.ckan.net trying to follow dcat spec

15:27:43 <PeterKrantz> http://world.ckan.net/

Peter Krantz: http://world.ckan.net/

15:28:09 <sandro> rufus: big RDF triplestore with data.gov.uk + ckan data.    (this is not really released yet.)

Rufus Pollock: big RDF triplestore with data.gov.uk + ckan data. (this is not really released yet.)

15:28:24 <PeterKrantz> A sample dataset item: http://world.ckan.net/ckan.net/data/openaerialmap

Peter Krantz: A sample dataset item: http://world.ckan.net/ckan.net/data/openaerialmap

15:29:12 <sandro> Brand Niemann at US EPA

Brand Niemann at US EPA

15:29:55 <david-james> Did someone get the links that Brand mentioned?

David James: Did someone get the links that Brand mentioned?

15:30:04 <PaulZH> Paul Hermans

Paul Hermans: Paul Hermans

15:30:07 <sandro> Paul ....   working for Dutch Gov't as contractor, using Void, want to use dcat soon.

Paul .... working for Dutch Gov't as contractor, using Void, want to use dcat soon.

15:30:49 <sandro> cygri: Great group of people, very happy to have you all here.

Richard Cyganiak: Great group of people, very happy to have you all here.

15:31:05 <sandro> topic: Who Else Should Be Here?

3. Who Else Should Be Here?

15:32:15 <sandro> sandro: Rufus, are you representing data.uk.gov folks here?

Sandro Hawke: Rufus, are you representing data.uk.gov folks here?

15:32:37 <sandro> rufus: Pretty much; we run the catalog back end.

Rufus Pollock: Pretty much; we run the catalog back end.

15:33:00 <sandro> rufus: Will is currently traveling and so he can't be on the call right now.

Rufus Pollock: Will is currently traveling and so he can't be on the call right now.

15:33:30 <sandro> edsu: What about Australia?   Maybe the timezone problem is too great.

Ed Summers: What about Australia? Maybe the timezone problem is too great.

15:34:08 <sandro> peter: some folks in norway

Peter Krantz: some folks in norway

15:35:06 <sandro> cygri: Anyone have contacts with Australia or NZ folks?

Richard Cyganiak: Anyone have contacts with Australia or NZ folks?

15:35:31 <george> @david-james http://epaontology.wik.is/ and http://semanticommunity.net/ are Brand's sites related to this - i think these are the ones he mentioned today...

George Thomas: @david-james http://epaontology.wik.is/ and http://semanticommunity.net/ are Brand's sites related to this - i think these are the ones he mentioned today...

15:36:51 <sandro> ACTION: Rufus contact data-catalog folks in Australia to make sure they know about this group

ACTION: Rufus contact data-catalog folks in Australia to make sure they know about this group

15:37:08 <edsu> libby: hey, are you on the call?

Libby Miller: hey, are you on the call? [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ]

15:37:11 <sandro> topic: Preparing presentations of existing work

4. Preparing presentations of existing work

15:38:00 <sandro> cygri: Maybe we can get mailing list postings, with examples, and some brief presentations from folks who've done related work here?

Richard Cyganiak: Maybe we can get mailing list postings, with examples, and some brief presentations from folks who've done related work here?

15:38:10 <sandro> cygri: I can do dcat

Richard Cyganiak: I can do dcat

15:38:25 <sandro> ...   ctic      Martin?

... ctic Martin?

15:38:35 <sandro> martin_spain: Sure, I can do that.

Martín Álvarez: Sure, I can do that.

15:39:40 <sandro> cygri: For Au?

Richard Cyganiak: For Au?

15:39:41 <sandro> q?

q?

15:39:53 <sandro> ack david-james

ack david-james

15:41:05 <libby> no sorry edsu, my irc client automatically joined

Libby Miller: no sorry edsu, my irc client automatically joined

15:41:37 <sandro> sandro: this is not a "Working Group", we're trying a lighter-weight, less formal process here.

Sandro Hawke: this is not a "Working Group", we're trying a lighter-weight, less formal process here.

15:42:18 <sandro> cygri: Want to present next time, Rufus?

Richard Cyganiak: Want to present next time, Rufus?

15:42:54 <sandro> rufus: "what do you call a dataset"?    scovo?    dc terms?    void dataset?

Rufus Pollock: "what do you call a dataset"? scovo? dc terms? void dataset?

15:43:23 <sandro> rufus: Many of the VOID datasets (packages) that get registered are not yet, and may never be in RDF.     VOID is oriented to RDF data sets.

Rufus Pollock: Many of the VOID datasets (packages) that get registered are not yet, and may never be in RDF. VOID is oriented to RDF data sets.

15:43:41 <PeterKrantz> void dataset definition: http://rdfs.org/ns/void/html#Dataset

Peter Krantz: void dataset definition: http://rdfs.org/ns/void/html#Dataset

15:43:44 <sandro> rufus: We took mostly dublin core, with a few bits from scovo

Rufus Pollock: We took mostly dublin core, with a few bits from scovo

15:43:58 <PeterKrantz> "A dataset is a collection of data, published and maintained by a single provider, available as RDF on the Web, where at least some of the resources in the dataset are identified by dereferencable URIs."

Peter Krantz: "A dataset is a collection of data, published and maintained by a single provider, available as RDF on the Web, where at least some of the resources in the dataset are identified by dereferencable URIs."

15:44:24 <sandro> rufus: As data catalogs get richer, this will change.   what ministry produced this?   what geographic regions does it cover?    it will go beyond DC

Rufus Pollock: As data catalogs get richer, this will change. what ministry produced this? what geographic regions does it cover? it will go beyond DC

15:44:50 <sandro> rufus: In the world.ckan.net we've kind of adopted dcat, which inherits from VOID, which is a bit of an issue.

Rufus Pollock: In the world.ckan.net we've kind of adopted dcat, which inherits from VOID, which is a bit of an issue.

15:45:28 <sandro> rufus: dcat's great; most of the complex issues are stuff that dcat quite rightly punts on.

Rufus Pollock: dcat's great; most of the complex issues are stuff that dcat quite rightly punts on.

15:46:02 <sandro> ... lots of different ways of describing geographic regions; which one do you ask people to add to their datasets when putting it into the system...?

... lots of different ways of describing geographic regions; which one do you ask people to add to their datasets when putting it into the system...?

15:46:32 <sandro> cygri: Yes, this relationship between dcat and void should probably not be there.

Richard Cyganiak: Yes, this relationship between dcat and void should probably not be there.

15:47:07 <sandro> cygri: To what extent should we review existing work like Dublin Core, VOID, SKOS, ...?

Richard Cyganiak: To what extent should we review existing work like Dublin Core, VOID, SKOS, ...?

15:47:24 <george> +1

George Thomas: +1

15:47:26 <PeterKrantz> +1

Peter Krantz: +1

15:47:29 <kate_geyer> +1

Kate Geyer: +1

15:47:29 <edsu> +1

Ed Summers: +1

15:47:30 <PaulZH> +1

Paul Hermans: +1

15:47:34 <vassilios> +1

Vassilios Peristeras: +1

15:47:37 <martin_spain> +1

Martín Álvarez: +1

15:47:39 <sandro> sandro: +1

Sandro Hawke: +1

15:48:34 <sandro> cygri: I'll do dcat,  martic ctic, rufus on ckan, who can do the others...?

Richard Cyganiak: I'll do dcat, martic ctic, rufus on ckan, who can do the others...?

15:48:42 <edsu> q+ to suggest talking about relation to feed syndication

Ed Summers: q+ to suggest talking about relation to feed syndication

15:48:47 <sandro> cygri: I'll do void

Richard Cyganiak: I'll do void

15:48:58 <sandro> ack edsu

ack edsu

15:48:58 <Zakim> edsu, you wanted to suggest talking about relation to feed syndication

Zakim IRC Bot: edsu, you wanted to suggest talking about relation to feed syndication

15:49:30 <sandro> edsu: maybe Tom Baker from DC should be here?  He could come talk about it.

Ed Summers: maybe Tom Baker from DC should be here? He could come talk about it.

15:49:35 <sandro> edsu: I can talk about SKOS

Ed Summers: I can talk about SKOS

15:50:01 <sandro> cygri: PeterKrantz what about yours?

Richard Cyganiak: PeterKrantz what about yours?

15:50:11 <sandro> PeterKrantz: Mine's pretty much DC

Peter Krantz: Mine's pretty much DC

15:50:22 <PeterKrantz> http://pastie.org/921360

Peter Krantz: http://pastie.org/921360

15:50:37 <sandro> PeterKrantz: Here's an example of how we're doing it.

Peter Krantz: Here's an example of how we're doing it.

15:51:46 <sandro> cygri: Licensing is also something to talk about.....

Richard Cyganiak: Licensing is also something to talk about.....

15:52:25 <sandro> cygri: I'll see if I can find a volunteer to present on the AU work.

Richard Cyganiak: I'll see if I can find a volunteer to present on the AU work.

15:53:29 <martin_spain> http://risp.asturias.es/catalogo/index.html

Martín Álvarez: http://risp.asturias.es/catalogo/index.html

15:53:46 <sandro> martin_spain: Here's the catalog we developed

Martín Álvarez: Here's the catalog we developed

15:53:58 <sandro> martin_spain: We're using VOID

Martín Álvarez: We're using VOID

15:54:55 <martin_spain> http://risp.asturias.es/catalogo/empleo/oferta-formativa.rdf

Martín Álvarez: http://risp.asturias.es/catalogo/empleo/oferta-formativa.rdf

15:54:59 <sandro> cygri: You're doing the data as well as the catalog in RDF?

Richard Cyganiak: You're doing the data as well as the catalog in RDF?

15:55:03 <sandro> martin_spain: yes

Martín Álvarez: yes

15:55:50 <edsu> e.g. http://risp.asturias.es/catalogo/empleo/oferta-formativa.rdf

Ed Summers: e.g. http://risp.asturias.es/catalogo/empleo/oferta-formativa.rdf

15:56:12 <sandro> cygri: When underlying data is available as RDF, then you can use VOID.

Richard Cyganiak: When underlying data is available as RDF, then you can use VOID.

15:56:51 <edsu> q+ to suggest sunlight folks talk about their effort too http://wiki.sunlightlabs.com/Government_Data_Catalog_Guidelines

Ed Summers: q+ to suggest sunlight folks talk about their effort too http://wiki.sunlightlabs.com/Government_Data_Catalog_Guidelines

15:57:13 <sandro> cygri: Can we get summary, with relevant pointers, and an example, on the mailing list, and 3-5 minutes presentations at next meeting?

Richard Cyganiak: Can we get summary, with relevant pointers, and an example, on the mailing list, and 3-5 minutes presentations at next meeting?

15:57:32 <edsu> +1

Ed Summers: +1

15:57:34 <PeterKrantz> +1

Peter Krantz: +1

15:57:36 <martin_spain> +1

Martín Álvarez: +1

15:57:39 <PaulZH> +1

Paul Hermans: +1

15:57:44 <sandro> sandro: +1

Sandro Hawke: +1

15:57:55 <sandro> ack edsu

ack edsu

15:57:55 <Zakim> edsu, you wanted to suggest sunlight folks talk about their effort too http://wiki.sunlightlabs.com/Government_Data_Catalog_Guidelines

Zakim IRC Bot: edsu, you wanted to suggest sunlight folks talk about their effort too http://wiki.sunlightlabs.com/Government_Data_Catalog_Guidelines

15:58:46 <sandro> edsu: Relationship between data catalogs and syndication feeds

Ed Summers: Relationship between data catalogs and syndication feeds

15:58:55 <PeterKrantz> +1 (see Atom)

Peter Krantz: +1 (see Atom)

15:58:57 <sandro> ... so you can see what's changing

... so you can see what's changing

15:59:05 <george> +1 edsu

George Thomas: +1 edsu

15:59:08 <LuigiMontanez> +1 edsu

Luigi Montanez: +1 edsu

15:59:23 <david-james> I agree with Ed about the importance of feeds

David James: I agree with Ed about the importance of feeds

15:59:33 <edsu> http://groups.google.com/group/dataset-dynamics

Ed Summers: http://groups.google.com/group/dataset-dynamics

15:59:43 <PeterKrantz> I have experimented with RDF over Atom feeds for this.

Peter Krantz: I have experimented with RDF over Atom feeds for this.

16:00:24 <sandro> edsu: cygri you work with michael hausenbaus who is working on dataset-dynamics.   maybe they could come and talk about what they are trying to do, with an eye to the Note on dcat taking about how to layer this metadata into a feed.

Ed Summers: cygri you work with michael hausenbaus who is working on dataset-dynamics. maybe they could come and talk about what they are trying to do, with an eye to the Note on dcat taking about how to layer this metadata into a feed.

16:01:00 <sandro> cygri: Sounds good.   I see people interested in this.

Richard Cyganiak: Sounds good. I see people interested in this.

16:01:22 <sandro> cygri: Main thing for next meeting is to reach understanding on scope.

Richard Cyganiak: Main thing for next meeting is to reach understanding on scope.

16:02:01 <sandro> ... i'm coming from having done dcat and shown it to egov ig, and we're trying to get it onto a broader base.     but of course this will be largely shaped by what everyone wants to do.

... i'm coming from having done dcat and shown it to egov ig, and we're trying to get it onto a broader base. but of course this will be largely shaped by what everyone wants to do.

16:02:22 <sandro> ... synchronizing updates does seem to be important

... synchronizing updates does seem to be important

16:02:35 <sandro> ... next meetings, let's see if we can reach consensus on deliverables and scope

... next meetings, let's see if we can reach consensus on deliverables and scope

16:02:58 <PeterKrantz> Aggregation of data sets will probably be a use case involving data set metadata.

Peter Krantz: Aggregation of data sets will probably be a use case involving data set metadata.

16:03:38 <sandro> ... Sandro and I talk about it, and drafted an initial proposal,

... Sandro and I talk about it, and drafted an initial proposal,

16:04:25 <sandro> rufus: when I spoke with Will, we were clear we wanted to collaborate, to have something concrete on the ground that everyone can contribute to, with world.ckan.net, as a group thing.

Rufus Pollock: when I spoke with Will, we were clear we wanted to collaborate, to have something concrete on the ground that everyone can contribute to, with world.ckan.net, as a group thing.

16:04:35 <sandro> rufus: running code is one of the best ways to test ideas

Rufus Pollock: running code is one of the best ways to test ideas

16:04:41 <PeterKrantz> +1

Peter Krantz: +1

16:04:43 <david-james> Are we moving toward wrapping up?

David James: Are we moving toward wrapping up?

16:04:48 <sandro> cygri: Great to hear.

Richard Cyganiak: Great to hear.

16:04:55 <sandro> david-james, yes

david-james, yes

16:06:12 <sandro> sandro: same logistics for call in upcoming weeks.

Sandro Hawke: same logistics for call in upcoming weeks.

16:06:37 <sandro> cygri: when we understand the scope, we can figure out better how many calls to run

Richard Cyganiak: when we understand the scope, we can figure out better how many calls to run

16:06:47 <vassilios> could we move the meeting earlier fro the australian delegates?

Vassilios Peristeras: could we move the meeting earlier fro the australian delegates?

16:06:55 <sandro> cygri: Exciting to be working with all of you.

Richard Cyganiak: Exciting to be working with all of you.

16:07:07 <LuigiMontanez> thanks cygri and edsu

Luigi Montanez: thanks cygri and edsu

16:07:07 <Zakim> -Brand

Zakim IRC Bot: -Brand

16:07:10 <PeterKrantz> bye

Peter Krantz: bye

16:07:12 <Zakim> -Sunlight

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sunlight

16:07:14 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro

16:07:14 <david-james> Thanks! Looking forward to it

David James: Thanks! Looking forward to it

16:07:14 <Zakim> -martin_spain

Zakim IRC Bot: -martin_spain

16:07:15 <Zakim> -Rufus

Zakim IRC Bot: -Rufus

16:07:16 <Zakim> -edsu

Zakim IRC Bot: -edsu

16:07:17 <edsu> cygri++

Ed Summers: cygri++

16:07:18 <martin_spain> bye

Martín Álvarez: bye

16:07:18 <Zakim> -kate_geyer

Zakim IRC Bot: -kate_geyer

16:07:19 <Zakim> -PeterKrantz

Zakim IRC Bot: -PeterKrantz

16:07:21 <Zakim> -George

Zakim IRC Bot: -George

16:07:23 <Zakim> -Paul

Zakim IRC Bot: -Paul

16:07:25 <Zakim> -vassilios

Zakim IRC Bot: -vassilios

16:07:25 <sandro> not really, vassilios -- the time is quite constriained in various ways.

not really, vassilios -- the time is quite constriained in various ways.

16:07:40 <vassilios> ok, thanks

Vassilios Peristeras: ok, thanks

16:07:42 <Zakim> -cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri

16:07:43 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(LD TECH)10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV(LD TECH)10:00AM has ended

16:07:45 <Zakim> Attendees were cygri, +1.202.955.aaaa, martinSpain, Sandro, martin_spain, George, +1.617.619.aabb, Paul, edsu, PeterKrantz, vassilios, kate_geyer, +0122369aacc, Brand, Luigi,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were cygri, +1.202.955.aaaa, martinSpain, Sandro, martin_spain, George, +1.617.619.aabb, Paul, edsu, PeterKrantz, vassilios, kate_geyer, +0122369aacc, Brand, Luigi,

16:07:52 <Zakim> ... Montanez, David, James, Rufus, Luigi_Montanez, David_James

Zakim IRC Bot: ... Montanez, David, James, Rufus, Luigi_Montanez, David_James



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