Workshop2012

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W3C ODRL Community Group Meeting - 2012 

Date: Monday 24 Sept 2012
Time: 1PM-5PM
Place: Faculty of Informatics at University of Namur, Rue Grandgnage 21, Namur, Belgium
Room: Dijkstra, 4th floor

Agenda: 

See Tracking Agenda

Attendees:

  • Susanne Guth (chair)
  • Rudiger Grimm
  • Jürgen Nützel
  • Annanda Rath
  • Daniel Pähler
  • Andreas Karsten
  • Jean-Noel Colin
  • Renato Iannella (via skype 1-3PM)


See Virtual Goods+ODRL Workshop for more logistics and full program for 25th Sept.


Raw Notes:

[24/09/2012 21:28:13] Susanne Guth: Agenda: http://www.w3.org/community/odrl/track/agenda

[24/09/2012 21:28:39] Renato Iannella: Attendees listed here: http://www.w3.org/community/odrl/wiki/Workshop2012

[24/09/2012 21:30:09] Renato Iannella: Issue 4

[24/09/2012 21:36:24] Renato Iannella: Susanne to raise issue#4 with OMA

[24/09/2012 21:37:47] Renato Iannella: RI to look at Google analytics for web site access

[24/09/2012 21:38:03] Renato Iannella: Issue 5

[24/09/2012 21:39:57] Renato Iannella: RI to complete

[24/09/2012 21:41:20] Renato Iannella: Issue 2

[24/09/2012 21:41:37] Renato Iannella: ontology files http://www.w3.org/2012/09/odrl/semantic/draft/

[24/09/2012 21:41:48] Renato Iannella: http://www.w3.org/2012/09/odrl/semantic/draft/doco/

[24/09/2012 21:44:32] Daniel Pähler: http://userpages.uni-koblenz.de/~aggrimm/rox/

[24/09/2012 21:44:41] Daniel Pähler: rox.iwvi.uni-koblenz.de

[24/09/2012 21:45:56] Daniel Pähler: http://userpages.uni-koblenz.de/~aggrimm/rox/hilfe.html

[24/09/2012 21:51:18] Andreas Kasten: http://userpages.uni-koblenz.de/~aggrimm/rox/ed.html

[24/09/2012 22:00:07] Daniel Pähler: http://userpages.uni-koblenz.de/~aggrimm/rox/visFF.html

[24/09/2012 22:01:45] Daniel Pähler: http://userpages.uni-koblenz.de/~aggrimm/rox/cmsPlone.html

[24/09/2012 22:07:44] Daniel Pähler: http://userpages.uni-koblenz.de/~aggrimm/rox/ontologies/ODRL2.0/

[24/09/2012 22:25:24] Renato Iannella: Action: DP/AK - give feedback on their OWL experiences

[24/09/2012 22:25:43] Renato Iannella: ISSUE#3

[24/09/2012 22:29:52] Renato Iannella: Close this issue

[24/09/2012 22:30:56] Renato Iannella: Issue 8

[24/09/2012 22:31:00] Renato Iannella: schema.org

[24/09/2012 22:32:35] Renato Iannella: process

[24/09/2012 22:32:35] Renato Iannella: http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/SchemaDotOrgProposals

[24/09/2012 22:37:58] Renato Iannella: Action item - need find a resource to develop the proposal

[24/09/2012 22:38:50] Renato Iannella: Issue 9

[24/09/2012 22:46:40] Renato Iannella: Action: ask Stuart to do this!

[24/09/2012 22:47:05] Renato Iannella: Issue 10

[24/09/2012 22:50:17] Daniel Pähler: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-odrl/2012Jul/0012.html

[24/09/2012 22:52:03] Renato Iannella: We allow any URI to identify assets

[24/09/2012 22:52:40] Renato Iannella: So if the URI points to many "resources" then the identifer fo the Asset will refer to many assets

[24/09/2012 22:57:51] Renato Iannella: Action: none

[24/09/2012 22:57:58] Susanne Guth: :)

[24/09/2012 22:57:58] Renato Iannella: ODRL supports this requirement

[24/09/2012 22:58:12] Renato Iannella: ISSUE 11

[24/09/2012 23:03:46] Daniel Pähler: I'd like to bring up this argument of Michael: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-odrl/2012Jul/0010.html

[24/09/2012 23:08:44] Renato Iannella: <asset uid="http://w3.org/odrl/policy-template">

[24/09/2012 23:09:30] Renato Iannella: http://w3.org/odrl/policy-template = "blaaaa"

[24/09/2012 23:09:44] Daniel Pähler: Michael said in his last mail:

If something like "urn:newsml:reuters.com:*" is acceptable any news item issued by Reuters would fall into the range defined by this wildcard - and that's ok for the IPTC use case.

So since we solved this in Issue 10, this should work here, too

[24/09/2012 23:11:57] Renato Iannella: So ISSUE 10 and 11 are solved

[24/09/2012 23:12:03] Renato Iannella: Action: tell michael

[24/09/2012 23:12:11] Renato Iannella: ISSUE 12

[24/09/2012 23:12:56] Renato Iannella: Example 4.6

[24/09/2012 23:12:57] Renato Iannella: <o:duty uid="d1"> 

           <o:action name="http://w3.org/ns/odrl/vocab#pay"/>

<o:asset uid="http://example.com/ubl:EU1000.00" relation="http://w3.org/ns/odrl/vocab#target"/> 

       </o:duty>

[24/09/2012 23:13:50] Renato Iannella: Michael suggest

[24/09/2012 23:13:50] Renato Iannella: <o:duty> <o:action name="ov:pay"/> <o:constraint name="ov:paymentvalue" operator="ov:gteq" rightOperand="150.00" rOpDatatype="xs:decimal" rOpUnits="iso4217a:USD" /> </o:duty>

[24/09/2012 23:14:34] Renato Iannella: Renato says

[24/09/2012 23:14:35] Renato Iannella: <o:constraint name="ov:payAmount" operator="ov:eq" rightOperand="AUD123.50"/>

[24/09/2012 23:16:27] Renato Iannella: two new attributes

[24/09/2012 23:16:40] Renato Iannella: datatype (eg decimal, string)

[24/09/2012 23:16:51] Renato Iannella: units ($, kg)

[24/09/2012 23:19:26] Renato Iannella: (all are URIs)

[24/09/2012 23:20:06] Jean-Noël Colin: The <Obligation> element has zero or more <AttributeAssignment> elements. <AttributeAssignment> has an AttributeId and text content. The AttributeId is the returned attribute key, prefixed with the namespace http://security.bea.com/ssmws/ssm-ws-1.0.wsdl#, and the content is the attribute value.

For example, the response attribute “currency” : ”USD” is returned as: 

<AttributeAssignment

AttributeId="http://security.bea.com/ssmws/ssm-ws-1.0.wsdl#currency"

DataType="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string">USD </AttributeAssignment>

[24/09/2012 23:20:20] Jean-Noël Colin: (this comes from xacml)

[24/09/2012 23:25:06] Renato Iannella: Use case for dates:

[24/09/2012 23:25:07] Renato Iannella: <o:constraint name="ov:paymentduedate" operator="ov:lteq" rightOperand="2012-07-31" rOpDatatype="xs:date" />

[24/09/2012 23:30:06] Renato Iannella: UBL example

[24/09/2012 23:30:07] Renato Iannella: <ubl:PriceAmount xml:id="http://example.com/ubl:AUD0.50"

xmlns:ubl="urn:oasis:names:specification:ubl:schema:xsd:CommonBasicComponents-2" 

   currencyID="AUD">0.50</ubl:PriceAmount>

[24/09/2012 23:35:04] Renato Iannella: Model

[24/09/2012 23:35:06] Renato Iannella: For example, the “number of usages” (name) must be “smaller than” (operator) the “number 10″ (rightOperand).

[24/09/2012 23:36:13] Daniel Pähler: (y)

[24/09/2012 23:36:14] Renato Iannella: ACTION: we will allow the 2 new attributes....but cannot be used for Payments

[24/09/2012 23:37:27] Renato Iannella: Enjoy Dinner !

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