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13:40:55 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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13:40:57 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be IA_XHTML2
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be IA_XHTML2 ←
13:40:57 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_XHTML2()9:45AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
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13:40:58 <trackbot> Meeting: XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference
13:40:58 <trackbot> Date: 08 July 2009
13:41:08 <Steven_> Regrets: Alessio
13:41:17 <Tina> Zakim, code?
Tina Holmboe: Zakim, code? ←
13:41:17 <Zakim> the conference code is 94865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Tina
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 94865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Tina ←
13:46:13 <Steven_> zakim, dial steven-617
Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial steven-617 ←
13:46:13 <Zakim> ok, Steven_; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven_; the call is being made ←
13:46:14 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has now started ←
13:46:56 <Steven_> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Jul/0007
13:47:06 <Steven_> Steven_ has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Jul/0007
Steven Pemberton: Steven_ has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Jul/0007 ←
13:47:42 <Steven_> zakim, who is here?
Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is here? ←
13:47:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see no one
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see no one ←
13:47:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see mgylling, ShaneM, Zakim, RRSAgent, Tina, Steven_, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see mgylling, ShaneM, Zakim, RRSAgent, Tina, Steven_, trackbot ←
13:48:47 <Steven_> Present: Steven, Tina, Markus, Shane
13:49:28 <Steven_> Scribe: Steven
(Scribe set to Steven Pemberton)
13:51:36 <Steven_> Topic: Holidays
13:52:03 <Steven_> Steven: I'm here next week, then gone for 3 weeks
Steven Pemberton: I'm here next week, then gone for 3 weeks ←
13:52:14 <Steven_> Tina: gone 15-22 Aug
Tina Holmboe: gone 15-22 Aug ←
13:52:27 <Steven_> Markus: Similar to yours Steven
Markus Gylling: Similar to yours Steven ←
13:52:36 <Steven_> Shane: We don't do holidays
Shane McCarron: We don't do holidays ←
13:53:28 <Steven_> Shane: If Alessio and Gregory are around then we might meet
Shane McCarron: If Alessio and Gregory are around then we might meet ←
13:54:39 <Steven_> Markus: What about MoZ?
Markus Gylling: What about MoZ? ←
13:54:42 <Steven_> Steven: Don't know
Steven Pemberton: Don't know ←
13:55:05 <Steven_> Markus: It would be good to know if we can count on him for the PERs
Markus Gylling: It would be good to know if we can count on him for the PERs ←
13:56:47 <Steven_> Steven: I'll ping him
Steven Pemberton: I'll ping him ←
13:56:59 <Steven_> Topic: The FAQ
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14:18:35 <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts/#xhtml12
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Shane McCarron: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts/#xhtml12 ←
14:21:51 <Steven_> Shane: We have to produce notes of everything on our drafts page
Shane McCarron: We have to produce notes of everything on our drafts page ←
14:21:57 <Steven_> ... that includes XHTML 1.2
... that includes XHTML 1.2 ←
14:22:03 <Steven_> ... so I'll turn that into a note
... so I'll turn that into a note ←
14:22:29 <Steven_> ... that will give people using WAI ARIA something to validate against
... that will give people using WAI ARIA something to validate against ←
14:22:47 <Steven_> Markus: I would love to see RelaxNG versions as well
Markus Gylling: I would love to see RelaxNG versions as well ←
14:23:06 <Steven_> ... can we do informative versions?
... can we do informative versions? ←
14:23:15 <Steven_> Shane: Sure, as a note
Shane McCarron: Sure, as a note ←
14:23:27 <Steven_> ... in fact, I may already have done it
... in fact, I may already have done it ←
14:24:18 <Steven_> Steven: looking at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-xhtml12-20081223/doctype.html#s_doctype
Steven Pemberton: looking at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-xhtml12-20081223/doctype.html#s_doctype ←
14:24:23 <ShaneM> ACTION: Shane to produce RelaxNG implementations for XHTML 1.1, XHTML Print, XHTML Basic 1.1, and XHTML + RDFa
ACTION: Shane to produce RelaxNG implementations for XHTML 1.1, XHTML Print, XHTML Basic 1.1, and XHTML + RDFa ←
14:24:23 <trackbot> Created ACTION-90 - Produce RelaxNG implementations for XHTML 1.1, XHTML Print, XHTML Basic 1.1, and XHTML + RDFa [on Shane McCarron - due 2009-07-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-90 - Produce RelaxNG implementations for XHTML 1.1, XHTML Print, XHTML Basic 1.1, and XHTML + RDFa [on Shane McCarron - due 2009-07-15]. ←
14:24:43 <Steven_> Steven: It links to WAI ARIA, but the reference is missing
Steven Pemberton: It links to WAI ARIA, but the reference is missing ←
14:25:13 <Steven_> ... role and access references are missing too
... role and access references are missing too ←
14:25:30 <ShaneM> ACTION: Shane to update the XHTML 1.2 draft to correct the references and ensure the schema implementations are up to date.
ACTION: Shane to update the XHTML 1.2 draft to correct the references and ensure the schema implementations are up to date. ←
14:25:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-91 - Update the XHTML 1.2 draft to correct the references and ensure the schema implementations are up to date. [on Shane McCarron - due 2009-07-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-91 - Update the XHTML 1.2 draft to correct the references and ensure the schema implementations are up to date. [on Shane McCarron - due 2009-07-15]. ←
14:26:03 <ShaneM> ACTION: Shane convert ALL rec-track drafts to notes by 2009-12-31
ACTION: Shane convert ALL rec-track drafts to notes by 2009-12-31 ←
14:26:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-92 - Convert ALL rec-track drafts to notes by 2009-12-31 [on Shane McCarron - due 2009-07-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-92 - Convert ALL rec-track drafts to notes by 2009-12-31 [on Shane McCarron - due 2009-07-15]. ←
14:27:09 <Steven_> Shane: I'm disappointed about XHTML 1.0
Shane McCarron: I'm disappointed about XHTML 1.0 ←
14:27:20 <Steven_> ... appendix C is wildly out of date
... appendix C is wildly out of date ←
14:27:31 <Steven_> ... and really needs to be updated
... and really needs to be updated ←
14:27:56 <Steven_> ... is there anything we can do about that?
... is there anything we can do about that? ←
14:28:01 <Steven_> Steven: I don't think so
Steven Pemberton: I don't think so ←
14:28:42 <Steven_> Shane: There are still some updates to make to that note, comments from the public, typo's etc
Shane McCarron: There are still some updates to make to that note, comments from the public, typo's etc ←
14:29:27 <Steven_> Steven: At least notes are lower hurdle to produce
Steven Pemberton: At least notes are lower hurdle to produce ←
14:30:03 <Steven_> Topic: Issues
14:30:47 <Steven_> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/bjoern-issues.html
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/bjoern-issues.html ←
14:31:25 <Tina> Zakim, mute me
Tina Holmboe: Zakim, mute me ←
14:31:25 <Zakim> sorry, Tina, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Tina, I don't know what conference this is ←
14:31:30 <Steven_> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/bjoern-issues.html#ISSUE14
ISSUE-14">http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/bjoern-issues.html#ISSUE-14 ←
14:31:44 <ShaneM> zakim, this is XHTML
Shane McCarron: zakim, this is XHTML ←
14:31:44 <Zakim> ok, ShaneM; that matches IA_XHTML2()9:45AM
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ShaneM; that matches IA_XHTML2()9:45AM ←
14:31:53 <ShaneM> zakim, mute tina
Shane McCarron: zakim, mute tina ←
14:31:53 <Zakim> sorry, ShaneM, I do not know which phone connection belongs to tina
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, ShaneM, I do not know which phone connection belongs to tina ←
14:33:24 <Steven_> zakim, who is here?
zakim, who is here? ←
14:33:25 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P31, +04670602aaaa, McCarron
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P31, +04670602aaaa, McCarron ←
14:33:25 <Zakim> On IRC I see mgylling, ShaneM, RRSAgent, Tina, Steven_, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see mgylling, ShaneM, RRSAgent, Tina, Steven_, trackbot ←
14:35:22 <ShaneM> zakim, mccarron is ShaneM
Shane McCarron: zakim, mccarron is ShaneM ←
14:35:22 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM; got it ←
14:35:30 <Steven_> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/meeting/2009-06-24#__40_lang
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/meeting/2009-06-24#__40_lang ←
14:36:19 <Steven_> Subtopic: @lang (again)
14:36:58 <Steven_> Shane: Is he asking for anything here? Do we need to say anything?
Shane McCarron: Is he asking for anything here? Do we need to say anything? ←
14:37:35 <Steven_> ... our rrationale is perfectly good
... our rrationale is perfectly good ←
14:37:38 <Steven_> s/rr/r/
s/rr/r/ ←
14:38:20 <Steven_> ... if he's claiming that we want to reintroduce it to support text/html then that is not the case
... if he's claiming that we want to reintroduce it to support text/html then that is not the case ←
14:38:37 <Steven_> Steven: You're right, we were asked to do this, we agree
Steven Pemberton: You're right, we were asked to do this, we agree ←
14:39:09 <Steven_> Shane: We say helps assistive technologies; how is that wrong???
Shane McCarron: We say helps assistive technologies; how is that wrong??? ←
14:39:19 <Steven_> ... so we don't need to change anything
... so we don't need to change anything ←
14:39:26 <Steven_> Subtopic: @usemap
14:39:37 <Steven_> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/bjoern-issues.html#ISSUE15
ISSUE-15">http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/bjoern-issues.html#ISSUE-15 ←
14:40:44 <Steven_> Steven: The trouble is, this is against a different spec, right?
Steven Pemberton: The trouble is, this is against a different spec, right? ←
14:41:14 <Steven_> ... Masayasu tested this against browsers long ago
... Masayasu tested this against browsers long ago ←
14:41:31 <Steven_> ... we ssaid we would support what that revealed
... we ssaid we would support what that revealed ←
14:41:41 <Steven_> s/ss/
s/ss/ ←
14:41:56 <Steven_> ... but the change has to be made in M12N, not 1.1
... but the change has to be made in M12N, not 1.1 ←
14:44:03 <Steven_> Shane: We made a conscious decision at sometime to leave this as is
Shane McCarron: We made a conscious decision at sometime to leave this as is ←
14:45:30 <ShaneM> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/voyager-issues
Shane McCarron: http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/voyager-issues ←
14:45:57 <ShaneM> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/voyager-issues/Modularization-abstractions?id=9641;user=guest;selectid=9641;statetype=-1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
Shane McCarron: http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/voyager-issues/Modularization-abstractions?id=9641;user=guest;selectid=9641;statetype=-1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1 ←
14:46:43 <Steven_> http://www.w3.org/People/mimasa/test/imagemap/results
http://www.w3.org/People/mimasa/test/imagemap/results ←
14:47:55 <Steven_> Shane: It is a bug that it includes a #, but it is one that needs to be fixed
Shane McCarron: It is a bug that it includes a #, but it is one that needs to be fixed ←
14:48:27 <Steven_> Steven: then we have to fix M12N
Steven Pemberton: then we have to fix M12N ←
14:49:15 <Steven_> ... M12N 1.1 needs fixing
... M12N 1.1 needs fixing ←
14:49:23 <Steven_> ... and the FAQ doesn't mention that
... and the FAQ doesn't mention that ←
14:49:41 <Steven_> ... unless that's what they mean by M12N 1.0 2e
... unless that's what they mean by M12N 1.0 2e ←
14:49:53 <Steven_> Shane: We would break M12N rules to change the datatype
Shane McCarron: We would break M12N rules to change the datatype ←
14:50:15 <Steven_> Steven: We have to leave this as is, and explain why
Steven Pemberton: We have to leave this as is, and explain why ←
14:50:33 <Steven_> ... this is a bug against M12N, not XHTML 1.1
... this is a bug against M12N, not XHTML 1.1 ←
14:50:48 <Steven_> [ADJOURN]
[ADJOURN] ←
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14:50:53 <Zakim> +Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: +Steven ←
14:50:54 <Zakim> -Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven ←
14:50:55 <Zakim> -??P31
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P31 ←
14:50:56 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended ←
14:50:57 <Zakim> Attendees were +04670602aaaa, ShaneM, Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +04670602aaaa, ShaneM, Steven ←
14:54:42 <Steven_> rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, make minutes ←
14:54:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-xhtml-minutes.html Steven_
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