PragueSep2012

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1 Participants

Confirmed:

Name Attending dinner on 25th Special food needs (vegetarian/vegan/etc.)
Yves Savourel (ENLASO) Yes
Dave Lewis (TCD) Yes
Dominic Jones (TCD) No
Leroy Finn (TCD) Yes
Des Oates (Adobe) Yes
Milan Karasek (Moravia) Yes
Jirka Kosek (UEP, host) Yes
Felix Sasaki (DFKI / W3C Fellow) Yes
Jan Nelson (Microsoft) Yes
Phil Ritchie (VistaTEC) Yes
Tadej Štajner (JSI) Yes
Pedro L. Díez Orzas (Linguaserve) Yes
Giuseppe Deriard (Linguaserve) Yes
Mauricio del Olmo (Linguaserve) Yes
Pablo Nieto (Linguaserve) Yes
Moritz Hellwig (Cocomore) Yes
Michael Kruppa (Cocomore) Yes
Ankit Srivastava (DCU) Yes
Declan Groves (DCU) Yes
Shaun McCane (invited expert) Yes
Serge Gladkoff (Lorgrus, guest) Yes
David Filip (UL) Yes
Olaf-Michael Stefanov (invited expert) Yes
Sebastian Sklarß (]init[, guest) Yes
Arle Lommel (DFKI) Yes
Gornostay, Tatiana (Tilde, guest) Yes

Remote participants:

Dial in info for remote participants: https://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar.html#s_5211

2 Logistics

  • Dates: 25-26 September 2012
  • Location: University of Economics, W. Churchill sq. 4, Prague 3, Czech Republic
  • Host: UEP
  • Emergency contact (Jirka): +420 604 924 664
  • IRC:
    • Go to http://irc.w3.org/
    • Enter your user name and the channel #mlw-lt
    • We will use IRC for discussions with external participants and for scribing
  • Phone bridge: We have reserved a zakim bridge. Depending on how many people dial in we may just use Skype.

3 Location

University of Economics

Local form of address:

Vysoká škola ekonomická v Praze
nám. W. Churchilla 4 
130 67 Praha 3 

English form of address:

University of Economics in Prague
W. Churchill square no. 4
Prague 3

The closest metro stations are Hlavní Nádraží (line C) and Náměstí republiky (line B). You can walk from those stations — it is about 15 minutes walk — or you can use tram #5, #9 and #26 and exit at Husinecká station (it is the first stop from Hlavní nádraží and the second stop from Náměstí republiky).

Room RB336 is located in so called “Paradisiac Building” (Rajská budova) on the floor number 3.

It is very easy to get to this room. Stand in front of Churchill’s statue and look in the same direction as Winston. Then turn to the right. You will see few stairs and entrance into the university. But you will not use this entrance. Instead you will walk around this building from the left. You should pass by crossbar for cars and then go straight to the entry into the “New Building” (Nová budova). Pass wall and lifts from the right side. In front of you you will see wide corridor with glass roof. Go through it and turn to the left before stairs. Take lift to floor number 3 (press number 3 in the lift). Leave the lift. Go through the glass doors and then go to the right. The room RB336 is just around the corner.

If you get lost try to follow signs of university navigation system or call Jirka at +420 604 924 664.

Google Map

Map with a better scale (in Czech)

4 Travel Information

4.1 Airport

Prague international airport Ruzyně (PRG) is located about 20 km from the city centre. Depending on traffic it generally takes 30 to 60 minutes to go there:

  • By taxi -- The most comfortable method to reach the city will cost about 700 CZK (24 Euro)
  • By Airport Express buses -- They operate every 30 minutes. The first one leaves the airport at 4:40am, the last one at 9:10pm. The price is 45 CZK per person and the tickets are available at the driver. They will take you to the metro station Holešovice (metro line C).
  • By Cedaz buses -- These buses operate from 5:30am to 9:30pm every 30 minutes. They will take you to the metro station Dejvická (metro line A) or to the city centre to the metro station Namesti Republiky (metro line B). The fare is 90 CZK per person.
  • By city bus and subway -- Bus #119 takes you to the metro station Dejvická (metro line A), bus #100 brings you to the metro station Zličín (metro line B). These public transport buses operate every 8-20 minutes (depending on working days/weekend and hour) and single ticket costs only 26 CZK and you can use it later when changing to subway, other bus line or tram. Tickets are available in vending machines.

Prague metro info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_Metro

4.2 Trains

Prague has two international train stations: Hlavní Nádraží (central station, abbreviated Praha hl.n., connection by metro line C); and Praha-Holešovice (Holešovice station, connection by metro line C). Eurocity trains connect Prague to Berlin (5 1/2 hours), Vienna (4 1/2 hours) and Budapest (6 1/2 hours).

4.3 Traveling in Prague

Prague has quite good public transport system which is very cheap (see rates information). For your purposes the most convenient way will be to buy 3 or 5 day ticket. The 5 day ticket costs 500 CZK (19 €), 3 day only is for 330 CZK (13 €). You can buy this ticket in offices that are located on several metro stations, including stations Dejvická and Zličín to which buses from airport are coming. You have to mark this ticket on its first usage.

5 Lodging

Pages with links to various accommodation offers:

Some hotels in the vicinity of VŠE:

  • Hotel Alfa, Milíčova 415/5, Praha 3 (free WiFi access) – MSMQ found the Hotel Alfa very comfortable and convenient on both his visits to Prague
  • Hotel Ariston, Seifertova 65, Praha 3 (WiFi only in lobby for €1 per 15 minutes)
  • Hotel Ariston Patio, Seifertova 22, Praha 3 (WiFi only in lobby for €1 per 15 minutes)
  • Hotel Olšanka, larger hotel with pool and gym (paid WiFi access €3.5/hour)
  • Hotel Dalimil, Prokopovo nám. 2-3, 130 00 Praha 3, (15mn walk from VŠE, free WiFi in room, breakfast included)

If you are looking for traditional business-class hotels, these are very easily reachable from meeting place:

  • Prague Marriot Hotel, V Celnici 1028/8, Praha 1
  • Boscolo Carlo IV., Senovážné náměstí 991/13
  • Hotel Palace Praha, Panská 897/12, Praha 1

6 Objectives

  • Your implementations and use cases here:
    • ENLASO (Yves)
    • UEP (Jirka)
      • Demo of tool for converting HTML5 with its-* attributes into XHTML+ITS
      • Code available at [1]
    • Cocomore (Michael, Moritz)
      • CMS components
        • Application of local metadata on content using WYSIWYG tools
        • Setting of global metadata (e.g. translate, language information) at the node level
        • Creation of workflows
        • Sending/receiving of data and their re-integration
    • Linguaserve (Pablo Nieto, Mauricio, Giuseppe, Pedro)
      • CMS content in Localization Chain LSP Localization Chain Side Use Case
        • Data categories implementation examples: input and output HTML 5 or XHTML 5 files:
          • ITS 2.0 data categories: Translate, Localization Note, Language Information, Domain, Provenance Translation Agent, Provenance Revision Agent, Allowed Characters and Storage Size.
          • Readiness and Progress Indicator data categories.
        • Receiving/sending of data and normalization process.
        • Workflow of how the System will process all data categories.
        • Applying ITS metadata:
          • Use of translate, language-information and domain in an example case.
      • Online MT System
    • JSI (Tadej Štajner)
      • Annotating content for content management systems
        • Application of Disambiguation and Text Analysis Annotation data categories.
        • Demonstration of a producer/passthrough for Disambiguation and Text Analysis Annotation data categories for HTML5
    • CMS-LION (TCD, Dave Lewis, Leroy Finn, Dom Jones)


  • Test suite
    • Current state: see ACTION-139 and ACTION-145
    • By the f2f meeting, we will have an initial version of the test suite ready, currently being prepared by TCD.
    • Objective: review test suite design, find volunteers to write test cases.

7 Agenda

Topics, see objectives above.

7.1 25 Sept: MLW-LT WG meeting agenda

Initial Strawman proposal:

  • 9.00: Welcome
    • Scene setting and meeting goals
    • Round Table introductions, including new partners
    • Review agenda
  • 9.30: Session 1: Status of Document & data category discussions. Go through section 1 and 2 in the plenary, edit real time. Also or later: Review state of outstanding data categories and have discussion to move each forward. ITS 2.0 data categories:
  • 10.30: Coffee break
  • 11.00: Continuation of Session 1
    • Discuss general editorial state of document, then list and allocate further work to be done
  • 12.00:Lunch
  • 13.00: Session 3: Implementation Demos. NOTE: during the demo sessions we will fill in a template to gather some high-level summaries of use cases, implementations, relevant data categories and benefits.
  • 15.30: Coffee
  • 16.00: Session 4: Implementation Demos continued
    • Cocomore - Moritz
    • HTML-to-TMS roundtrip using XLIFF with CMS-LION and SOLAS - David, Leroy, Dom, Dave
  • 17:00: Day Wrap Up
    • summarise: summary of implementation commitments and specification editing issues
    • review next day agenda
    • homework assignments
  • 17:30: close
  • 19:30 Social dinner at Petřínské terasy (http://goo.gl/maps/zkWRn)
    • You can get there by going to "Újezd" station by tram and then go uphill for 15 minutes. If you don't like climbing you can switch to cableway at Újezd and go one station up to Nebozízek.
    • There will be organized transport group. Meeting place is W. Churchill statue in the front of campus at 18:45 (we will leave place at 18:50). Group will take tram #9 from Husinecká to Újezd station. Please arm yourself with public transport ticket.

7.2 26 Sept: MLW-LT WG meeting agenda

  • Continuation of implementation demos
  • 9.00: Review agenda for day. Also: regular call time, sanity check.
  • 9.15: Session 1: Test suite and test commitment completion . NOTE: We will not only go through the conformance testing test suite, but also see what tests we have for real life implementations, and gather these in a separate matrix.
    • Goal: close issue-33. See action-139 and action-145. See also action-197 (NIF conversion), action-207 (HTML WG feedback) and action-215 (sample for XLIFF in test suite), and its:param testing.
    • 9.15 - 9.20: Dominic Jones - Introduction: Identifying Demo Systems, Getting commitments from implementors, Plans for the next year.
    • 9.20 - 9.40: Leroy Finn - Test Suite Overview: Input Files (XML, HTML, Global, Linked rules, Processing, Output), Actions and Issues.
    • 9.40 - 10.25: Data Category review (http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Test_Suite_Development#Test_Suite_Tracking):
      • Review each data category and feature and identify commitments from implementors.
      • Assemble watch-list of features lacking two or more conformance test commitments, as candidates for removal from editor draft
    • 10.25 - 10.30: Identify key contacts for webinar in October where implementors will be taken through test suite and start testing data category features.
  • 10.30: Coffee break
  • 11.00: Session 1 continued
  • 12.00:Lunch
  • 13.00: Session 2: new implementations. Presentations by Logrus (Serge Gladkoff), ]init[ (Sebastian Sklarß) and Tilde (Tatiana Gornostay)
  • 15.30: Coffee
  • 16.00: Session 3: Tools discussion
  • 17:00: Meeting Wrap Up
    • Summarize progress
    • Review action list
  • 17:30: close. Below topics covered in other parts of the meeting
    • Review timeplan and W3C requirements for 2013
    • Review implementation timeplan and interdependencies.
    • Plan for upcoming activities:
      • FEISGILTT, Seattle
      • TPAC, Lyon
      • Next MLW workshop
      • GALA

8 Outcome

See the meeting minutes at at http://www.w3.org/2012/09/25-mlw-lt-minutes and http://www.w3.org/2012/09/26-mlw-lt-minutes