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Bug 6657 - Comment 3 (of 4) from WAI-PF
Summary: Comment 3 (of 4) from WAI-PF
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: XML Schema
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Datatypes: XSD Part 2 (show other bugs)
Version: 1.1 only
Hardware: Macintosh Mac System 9.x
: P2 normal
Target Milestone: CR
Assignee: David Ezell
QA Contact: XML Schema comments list
URL: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w...
Whiteboard:
Keywords: resolved
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2009-03-05 22:21 UTC by C. M. Sperberg-McQueen
Modified: 2009-04-18 13:35 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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draft long description for Built-in Datatypes Hierarchy diagram (9.28 KB, text/html)
2009-03-06 01:21 UTC, C. M. Sperberg-McQueen
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Description C. M. Sperberg-McQueen 2009-03-05 22:21:12 UTC
In email sent 26 Feb 2009 and on the server at 
 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-schema-comments/2009JanMar/0151.html

Janina Sajka writes on behalf of the W3C WAI PF working group:

Re: Part 2, http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-xmlschema11-2-20090130/

(2) Diagram with built-in datatypes
(http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-xmlschema11-2-20090130/#built-in-datatypes)

Our reviewers found this diagram very useful (even more than the
corresponding one of the last version), and expect it will be frequently
consulted by XML developers.

However, the information provided in the diagram (in particular
inheritance) is not available in a long text description, as required by
WCAG 2.0 guideline 1.1 (http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#text-equiv).

Since this is a last-call document, PF encourages the editors to provide
a long description of the diagram that includes inheritance information
of the built-in datatypes.

PF thanks Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@utoronto.ca> and Gottfried
Zimmermann <zimmermann@accesstechnologiesgroup.com> for reading the XSD
1.1 Last Call document on behalf of WAI-PF.
Comment 1 C. M. Sperberg-McQueen 2009-03-06 01:21:19 UTC
Created attachment 656 [details]
draft long description for Built-in Datatypes Hierarchy diagram

I attach a draft long description of the built-in datatypes hierarchy diagram, for
examination and comment by those better versed in current practice than I am.

I have attempted to describe the diagram as I would if it occurred in a book I
was reading for Recording for the Blind and Dyslexic, but (a) it is some years
since I did any reading for RFB, so I'm out of practice, and (b) I do not know if
this is considered the appropriate level of detail for long descriptions of images
in HTML documents.  I also don't know the answers to several questions that
arose while drafting.  On any and all of them, I would welcome input from 
participants in WAI, or from potential users or readers of the description.

1 There are no headings in the longdesc document.  Should it have an HTML 
"h1" element at the beginning of the page?  Should there be "h2" heading
elements at the beginning of the overview and at the beginning of the 
detailed description?  (There are div elements, in the hopes that they 
may be useful for navigation.)

2 Every occurrence of a box label is hyperlinked to the corresponding section
of the spec.  This is simple and consistent and means I don't have to decide
which occurrence of a label is the 'main' occurrence.  If links are distracting
to readers, however, then I can imagine readers preferring that fewer phrases
in the description be hyperlinked.  What does good style in the formulation of
long descriptions prescribe here?

3 Should the longdesc document have a navbar of its own?

Any other suggestions which would improve the utility of this long
description for readers of the spec would be gratefully accepted.
Comment 2 David Ezell 2009-04-17 15:52:39 UTC
Adopt comment #1
Comment 3 C. M. Sperberg-McQueen 2009-04-18 01:16:16 UTC
The spec publication system for XSD 1.1 has now been modified to publish a 
long description for the type hierarchy diagram; the current text is essentially
that shown in the attachment above, minus the note about it being a draft 
not yet reviewed by the XML Schema WG and plus h1 headings for the two
main sections.

Following some of the links to other resources given at 

  http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20081211/H45

I found some useful discussions of longdesc.  In an attempt to make the
description useful both to users of screen readers and to users of 
screen magnifiers, I have linked to the long description using both the 
'longdesc' attribute on the img element and using  a text link in a
(new) image caption.  

I did not locate a longdesc attribute or anything similar on the 'object'
element; further tweaks may be required.

The longdesc should be integrated into the W3C-internal copy of the
status quo draft of the spec, at 

  http://www.w3.org/XML/Group./2004/06/xmlschema-2/datatypes.html

as soon as the new version is checked in (any minute now).

Input from readers with experience with longdesc and related issues 
continues to be very welcome and vigorously solicited.
 
Comment 4 C. M. Sperberg-McQueen 2009-04-18 13:35:15 UTC
I've now verified that the integration of the long description into the
editorial production system appears to have been successful (at 
least, it works in the status-quo documents), so I'm marking this
issue RESOLVED / FIXED.  

The WAI PF WG has been informed of the disposition of this and
their other comments in email archived at

  http://www.w3.org/mid/F6DBA530-0B5D-4FF2-9CC4-2C02002694A1@blackmesatech.com