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Bug 556 - Dependency to other technologies - Section 3.5.6
Summary: Dependency to other technologies - Section 3.5.6
Status: CLOSED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: WS Choreography
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Spec: Concrete and QOS (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: Other other
: P2 normal
Target Milestone: --
Assignee: Greg Ritzinger
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Depends on: 555
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Reported: 2004-02-23 12:35 UTC by Greg Ritzinger
Modified: 2005-01-04 20:39 UTC (History)
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Description Greg Ritzinger 2004-02-23 12:35:02 UTC
> Section 3.5.6:
> Monica. Please specify what specifications of which you make 
> reference. An agreement protocol doesn't exist in web services, unless 
> this is the
> infrastructure coordination/transactional evolving capabilities. Is 
> this the meaning of this statement?
> David. Perhaps a "common understanding" would be better than 
> "agreement" as in "the Roles in the Choreography have a common
> understanding of the outcome".
> Monica. If this relates to WS-CAF, suggest this be a team discussion 
> item for specific reference (Note: Do we approach by requirement or by
> specification?). Implicit dependencies exist. Should we pose these in 
> a separate document or section of this overview?
> David. I agree that dependencies exist and need to be discussed.
Comment 1 Charlton Barreto 2004-07-13 15:06:45 UTC
After further review and discussion, a short list of specifications have been
identified as either critical or optional to ws-chor:
--> Critical
	* BPEL
	* WSDL
	* XPath/XQuery
--> Optional 
	* BPMN
	* BPSS
	* WS-Coordination
	* WS-Reliability
	* WS-Addressing
There are others which I am continuing to investigate and will discuss. I would
like to enter the above critical and optional dependencies as a part of a
general discussion point on ws-chor dependencies. The BPEL, WSDL and XPath
dependencies are critical to ws-chor and we will need to resolve which versions
we will support in 1.0. The BPMN, BPSS and WS-Coordination are less critical yet
may impact ws-chor and thus need to be discussed. 
I will present more details on these in this bug description. 
Comment 2 Charlton Barreto 2004-08-06 06:30:01 UTC
I believe we've addressed - at least conditionally - the BPEL, WSDL and by
extension the XPath/XQuery dependencies. 

As to the rest, Monica has commented as follows:
- WS-Coordination 
WS-Coordination Framework, WS-BTP are open and emerging standards. WS-C is
proprietary currently.

- WS-Reliability 
Same holds true here (WS-ReliableMessaging is proprietary).

- WS-Addressing 
WS-MessageDelivery also applies. At least three groups, WS-CAF, WS-Reliability
and WS-BPEL are working on an abstract content model that abstracts away from
such a dependency (i.e. a proprietary specification - lock in avoided as well).

We definitely need to ensure that we conform to open standards. 

I propose that as far as WS-Reliability and WS-Addressing are concerned, we hold
to the WS-CAF/WS-Reliability/WS-BPEL abstract content model (vs.
WS-ReliableMessaging and WS-MessageDelivery). I propose that as far as
WS-Coordination is concerned, we hold to the WS-Coordination Framework and
WS-BTP standards (vs. WS-C).
Comment 3 Martin Chapman 2004-12-01 16:40:07 UTC
*** Bug 557 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 4 Greg Ritzinger 2005-01-04 20:38:05 UTC
SRT - Was talked about at the F2F. RECOMMENDATION - Due to Charlton's 
proposals at the F2F this should be marked as CLOSE FIXED.