Re: Focus visible enhanced exception

What I was getting at were situations in responsive views (sometimes already kicking in at breakpoints like 900px) where you have left-aligned menu items running across the entire screen and the focus indication may be way off to the right (a somewhat related case from one of our user tests is https://accessuse.eu/en/drop-down-menus.html#existenzgruender <https://accessuse.eu/en/drop-down-menus.html#existenzgruender> - video). I know we failed to define a workable proximity SC, but still wondering whether we can somehow include that in such exception cases, the focus indication should be close to what is being focused...

> Am 16.06.2020 um 20:35 schrieb jake abma <jake.abma@gmail.com>:
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> Don't think we want to say it MUST be left in a menu, while a designer wants it right on mobile.
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> Op di 16 jun. 2020 20:32 schreef Detlev Fischer <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de <mailto:detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>>:
> Ok, sorry that I got that wrong! 
> Would it not at least need to take into account text alignment (have the thick short border at the side where the text, or generally ‘payload’ of the control, aligns)?  
> I still feel uncomfortable with the specificity of that exception (but don’t have a better workable idea to plug that loophole).
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> Sent from phone
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>> Am 16.06.2020 um 19:29 schrieb jake abma <jake.abma@gmail.com <mailto:jake.abma@gmail.com>>:
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>> Is was opposite if longest side, not left side vs. Top or bottom
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>> :-)
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>> Op di 16 jun. 2020 19:25 schreef Detlev Fischer <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de <mailto:detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>>:
>> i meant RTL (right to left), of course: here, the exception would single out right side border. Too specific...
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>> Sent from phone
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>> > Am 16.06.2020 um 19:22 schrieb Detlev Fischer <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de <mailto:detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>>:
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>> > Just to add to what was discussed on the call: Exceptions like “or 8px left-side border” would also not be advisable simply for i8n reasons: think of left-to-right languages or vertical script.
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>> > Sent from phone
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