Re: Diagram of WCAG Extension integration into WCAG (Proposal)

> Detlev Fischer <mailto:detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>
> 25 September 2015 07:58
> Hi David,
> The revision much clearer, thanks!
+1.  Great stuff David - it shows the potential 'flow' much better.

Your initiative is (as always) appreciated.

Josh
> One could add, above the Extension bubble, something like "Regulators 
> may opt to require:" but perhaps that is too much crammed into this 
> diagram.
>
> Best,
> Detlev
>
>
>
> David MacDonald <mailto:david100@sympatico.ca>
> 24 September 2015 21:47
> I've taken the feedback and created another diagram that may be clearer.
> I've tried to simplify it, particularly reducing the complexity of the
> errors.
>
> http://davidmacd.com/blog/WCAG-extension-proposed-integration-into-WCAG.html
>
> Cheers,
>
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> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 12:38 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
>
> David MacDonald <mailto:david100@sympatico.ca>
> 24 September 2015 17:38
> Hi Detlev
>
>>> "WCAG Extension" is both the label of the blob in the normative section
> BUT ALSO heads the WCAG extensions to the left (the boxes Mobile,
> Coginitve, Low vision).
>
> The proposal is that the left side is the the individual task force work.
> Any success criteria and guidelines would be gathered up and adjusted for
> redundancies etc,
>
>>> The meaning of the arrows could be that some or all of that stuff feeds
> into a normative extension or that there a relation of sorts between two
> separate things.
>
> Yes, I'm suggesting that the three extensions could be combined into one
> normative extension.
>
>>>> it doesn't tell me clearly if and when I need to meet the Extension to
> claim WCAG 2.0 conformance.
>
> WCAG 2 will never change, so the extension circle is not required to meet
> WCAG 2 but if some jurisdiction requires "WCAG2 + Extension", then it would
> be required in addition to WCAG. That is why it is in the normative box...
> Normative means it will go through a formal acceptance procedure which is
> very rigorous. Once something is declared normative it is very hard to
> change... that would be any Guidelines and Success Criteria that the task
> forces make, and are approved.
>
> Explanation of Normative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normative
>
> The techniques we work up in the task forces will go into the "informative"
> bucket... they are non normative and can be easily changed, fixed, or
> adapted and they can be referenced either by the extension or the core WCAG.
>
>
>
>
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>
> David MacDonald
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> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Detlev Fischer<
> detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>  wrote:
>
>> What I currently find confusing is that "WCAG Extension" is both the label
>> of the blob in the normative section BUT ALSO heads the WCAG extensions to
>> the left (the boxes Mobile, Coginitve, Low vision). The meaning of the
>> arrows could be that some or all of that stuff feeds into a normative
>> extension or that there a relation of sorts between two separate things.
>> The diagram also leaves me uncertain as to the exact status of *the*
>> Extension or the *extensions* - it doesn't tell me clearly if and when I
>> need to meet the Extension to claim WCAG 2.0 conformance.
>>
>> --
>> Detlev Fischer
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>> Laura Carlson schrieb am 24.09.2015 16:33:
>>
>>> Hi David and all,
>>>
>>> I think the idea of a  flowchart to depicted how separate extensions
>>> become 1 unified WCAG extension is great. Reminds me of those "How a
>>> bill becomes a law" diagrams.
>>>
>>> I gave the flowchart it's own section on the WCAG 2 Extension
>>> Principles Wiki Page.
>>> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/WCAG_2_Extension_Principles
>>>
>>> Thanks for your hard work.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Laura
>>>
>>> On 9/24/15, Srinivasu Chakravarthula<srinivasu.chakravarthula@deque.com
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>> +1 Great work, David.
>>>>
>>>> > From the beginning at least my understanding is that TFs are subgroups
>> of
>>>> WGs.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Srini
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> *Srinivasu Chakravarthula*
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>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 2:05 PM, josh@interaccess.ie<
>> josh@interaccess.ie>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Great stuff David! As discussed on the call yesterday - one area that
>>>>> your diagram would need to address is the nexus/delta between related
>>>>> techniques (as outputs from various TFs that cover users in other
>>>>> groups).
>>>>>
>>>>> At least to indicate that in your document flow would be good as the
>>>>> techniques may not always be exclusively related to the needs of each
>> TFs
>>>>> target user group.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also think that the Mobile TF, Cognitive TF  and Low Vision TF work
>>>>> belongs 'inside' the 'WCAG Extension' Circle, as the TFs are tasked to
>> do
>>>>> this work, and your visual representation indicates that they may be
>>>>> separate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good work though :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh
>>>>>
>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>> From: "David MacDonald"<david100@sympatico.ca>
>>>>> To: "WCAG"<w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
>>>>> Sent: 23/09/2015 21:14:56
>>>>> Subject: Diagram of WCAG Extension integration into WCAG (Proposal)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've created a diagram of how we might integrate the extensions into a
>>>>> single document.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> http://davidmacd.com/blog/WCAG-extension-proposed-integration-into-WCAG.html
>>>>> Description:
>>>>> The task forces, Mobile, Cognitive, and Low Vision would develop
>>>>> guidelines, success criteria and techniques separately, and then
>>>>> integrate
>>>>> them to resolve conflicts and overlaps and then integrate them into the
>>>>> singular WCAG extension. The techniques would be collected in a non
>>>>> normative document as techniques for the extension, and some of them
>> can
>>>>> be
>>>>> referenced from WCAG 2 where the techniques might apply to an existing
>>>>> Success criteria.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> David MacDonald
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> --
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>>>
>
> Detlev Fischer <mailto:detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>
> 24 September 2015 16:00
> What I currently find confusing is that "WCAG Extension" is both the 
> label of the blob in the normative section BUT ALSO heads the WCAG 
> extensions to the left (the boxes Mobile, Coginitve, Low vision). The 
> meaning of the arrows could be that some or all of that stuff feeds 
> into a normative extension or that there a relation of sorts between 
> two separate things. The diagram also leaves me uncertain as to the 
> exact status of *the* Extension or the *extensions* - it doesn't tell 
> me clearly if and when I need to meet the Extension to claim WCAG 2.0 
> conformance.
>
> --
> Detlev Fischer
> testkreis c/o feld.wald.wiese
> Thedestr. 2, 22767 Hamburg
>
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> Srinivasu Chakravarthula <mailto:srinivasu.chakravarthula@deque.com>
> 24 September 2015 10:45
> +1 Great work, David.
>
> >From the beginning at least my understanding is that TFs are subgroups of
> WGs.
> Best,
> Srini
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Srinivasu Chakravarthula*
> Sr. Accessibility Consultant, *Deque* <http://deque.com>
> Hand phone: +91 709 380 3855
>
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> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 2:05 PM, josh@interaccess.ie <josh@interaccess.ie>
>
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