W3C

– DRAFT –
Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

04 March 2024

Attendees

Present
DavidSwallow, Eric_hind, Frankie, Jan, Jennie, julierawe, kirkwood, Rachael, tburtin
Regrets
rain, tiffany
Chair
-
Scribe
Eric Hind, Eric_Hind

Meeting minutes

<lisa> presnet+

<lisa> next item

Lisa: Subgroup updates

David: Mental Health with David S; Color is ongoing.

Lisa: Making Content Usable, Rain sends regrets

Lisa: Rain to send some mockups; if you can help Rain, get in touch (HTML)

Julie: On WCAG 3.0; have selected a small number of out comes including clear language as something to deep dive on. Card sorting exercise reveal Tuesday. Training on Wednesday for AG (for new people)

Rachael: Note that this is at 11EST

Lisa: Thinking of making a community related to accessibility in multiple languages. To ensure our processes work in other languages. This has been sent to internationalization.

Jan: As related to the new internationalization group per Lisa, there's been no feedback as of yet.

<Rachael> +1 to following up and getting the involved sooner rather than later

Julie: Would appreciate a follow up with i18n group to ensure they have buy in at a high level (descriptions, etc).

<Jennie> * Great idea, Julie

Lisa: Internationalization group has given feedback in the past that they would appreciate check ins to a group like this (and approvals) but aren't likely to participate.

<julierawe> Jan, can you please put the deadline in the subject line?

Lisa: Recommend a final ping before getting the community group up ourselves as they are extremely busy.

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Lisa: Lets cancel the Thursday subgroup meeting as we don't have all the right people this week.

Lisa: RTQF meeting; when to meet with RTQF? (Collaborative work). Need time to clear up any misunderstandings.

David: RTQF had suggestions and would like to meet either the 13th or 20th; or even the week after (27th).

<kirkwood> that works

Lisa: Either 27th, or while CSUN is happening on the 20th. Jennie, John and David are most critical attendees.

<Jennie> * I can't make the 20th. The 27th I can make.

<lisa> https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_apa

<lisa> This teleconference is scheduled Wednesdays at 10:00 until 11:00

Lisa: This would be at 2PM UK - likely 10 AM EST

<lisa> Boston time.

Lisa: Lets lock in the 27th at 9 AM EST, 2 PM UK for RTQF meeting.

<Jennie> @DavidSwallow: can you share a calendar invite with a link to the documents we should be prepared to discuss, once you confirm the date and time?

Lisa: This is all about collaborative documents - please attend if you'd like.

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Lisa: Github editors meeting, will send out times and dates tomorrow to fill in best times to attend the training.

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<lisa> close item 7

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Becca: Conversational interfaces, 2 items to ask group about

Becca: Issue paper on Conversational Voice Systems, all comments integrated but two issues

Becca: Item 1 on algorithmic bias, this feels out of scope of this issue paper or something we can point to from this document.

Becca: There was a specific feedback about AI bias against cognitive disabilities; are there other resources out there related to that?

Becca: No academic searches have given useful results (yet). Worth trying again with more specific queries.

<lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HjUFhA43mmdysNWEo5SfHqmh4l-gPc8m7A2SZzUq_6Y/edit#heading=h.1pak97yeyy5y

<lisa> safety

<Jennie> @Becca_Monteleone: if you haven't already, maybe check with https://www.naric.com/?q=en/content/cf-rehab-adv-search

<lisa> - conversational interfaces paper see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B1vCqlU1IF5UmqxhJAy8Khdi-kRQNPalVX8f3lCMr7w/edit#heading=h.9j8rnhzb9sv8

Becca: May include some searches with aging to help the search process. John will also work on this particular comment.

Jennie: Has provided digest of useful materials (to Becca)

Tiffany: Those with alternative communication devices can also be impacted; recommend using those as additional search terms.

Becca: Second Issue, ask on mental health as a general note as related to Conversational voice system. Such as anxiety, cognitive load, negative experiences with conversational systems, etc.

Becca: Will leave second issue as is for now and continue to finish up first issue.

John: Is there any research related to voice male/female voices? Becca will review this aspect too.

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Lisa: Safety issue paper, not many comments given 2 week window. Do people want more time or are there more comments to come?

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<lisa> omments in safety issue paper: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HjUFhA43mmdysNWEo5SfHqmh4l-gPc8m7A2SZzUq_6Y/edit#heading=h.1pak97yeyy5y

Lisa: Will give it another week - link in the IRC (Safety Issue paper)

Lisa: Supported decision making as a scenario that promotes autonomy but provides safety. It is a complex topic but should it be merged with W3C or a stand alone solution.

<Jennie> * Here's the Volunteers of America page: https://www.voamnwi.org/center-excellence-supported-decision-making

Jennie: Minnesota has a new program related to this; making a paper (per the volunteers of America link) would be timely if we can get a draft done.

<Rachael> +1 to doing it. If noone else steps up before June, I can pick it up mid-June. Just not before.

John: I would be supportive of this

Lisa: would also be a good time to get other (new) volunteers to get feedback on.

Jennie: These kinds of statutes may be changing in many states; this may be very dynamic in that sense.

<lisa> resolution. try and make separate issue paper on guided desion making

<lisa> subject to our yime and ability

Lisa: A document related to this would be useful to a lot of people. We should try to make a separate paper on guided decision making, subject to our time and ability.

<lisa> pulling content out of safty issue paper into supported desion making

John: Clarify, this is on Supported Decision Making

<lisa> +1

<julierawe> Have to drop for another meeting, thanks

<Rachael> +1 to separate paper

<kirkwood> +1

+1 to separate paper

<Jennie> + 1 to separate paper

<Frankie> +1

<tburtin> +1 to separate paper

<Frankie> Happy to help

Lisa: Strong consensus for separate paper after vote

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 221 (Fri Jul 21 14:01:30 2023 UTC).

Diagnostics

Maybe present: Becca, David, John, Julie, Lisa, Tiffany

All speakers: Becca, David, Jan, Jennie, John, Julie, Lisa, Rachael, Tiffany

Active on IRC: DavidSwallow, Eric_hind, Frankie, Jennie, JMcSorley, julierawe, kirkwood, lisa, Rachael, tburtin