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05:34:09 <Zakim> Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
05:34:32 <lisa> Agenda+
05:35:53 <lisa> Agenda+ Update from subgroups (and structure protoype plan) See https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.plt9g4kok1rb
05:36:20 <lisa> agenda+ Jennie and john, when can you meet RTQF?
05:36:51 <lisa> Agenda+  conversational interfaces paper   see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B1vCqlU1IF5UmqxhJAy8Khdi-kRQNPalVX8f3lCMr7w/edit#heading=h.9j8rnhzb9sv8
05:38:30 <lisa> Agenda+ comments in safety issue paper: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HjUFhA43mmdysNWEo5SfHqmh4l-gPc8m7A2SZzUq_6Y/edit#heading=h.1pak97yeyy5y
05:39:52 <lisa> agenda+ should supported desions making be its own issue paper?
05:40:13 <lisa> Agenda+ can we move the safety issue paper to github safety issue paper: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HjUFhA43mmdysNWEo5SfHqmh4l-gPc8m7A2SZzUq_6Y/edit#heading=h.1pak97yeyy5y
05:40:58 <lisa> Agenda+ github editors meeting
05:42:02 <lisa> agenda order 1,2,7, 3,4,5,6,
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15:45:19 <lisa> scribe: Eric Hind
15:45:24 <lisa> regrets+ tiffany, rain
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16:05:51 <Frankie> Present+
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16:06:21 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Subgroup updates
16:08:23 <Eric_hind> David: Mental Health with David S; Color is ongoing.
16:08:24 <kirkwood> present+
16:08:48 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Making Content Usable, Rain sends regrets
16:09:33 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Rain to send some mockups; if you can help Rain, get in touch (HTML)
16:10:40 <Eric_hind> Julie: On WCAG 3.0; have selected a small number of out comes including clear language as something to deep dive on.  Card sorting exercise reveal Tuesday.  Training on Wednesday for AG (for new people)
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16:11:05 <Eric_hind> Rachael: Note that this is at 11EST
16:11:56 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Thinking of making a community related to accessibility in multiple languages.  To ensure our processes work in other languages.  This has been sent to internationalization.
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16:12:40 <JMcSorley> present+ Jan
16:12:50 <Eric_hind> Jan: As related to the new internationalization group per Lisa, there's been no feedback as of yet.
16:13:59 <Rachael> +1 to following up and getting the involved sooner rather than later
16:14:22 <Eric_hind> Julie: Would appreciate a follow up with i18n group to ensure they have buy in at a high level (descriptions, etc).
16:14:45 <Jennie> * Great idea, Julie
16:15:55 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Internationalization group has given feedback in the past that they would appreciate check ins to a group like this (and approvals) but aren't likely to participate.
16:15:58 <lisa> q?
16:16:51 <Rachael> q+
16:18:15 <julierawe> Jan, can you please put the deadline in the subject line?
16:18:34 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Recommend a final ping before getting the community group up ourselves as they are extremely busy.
16:18:50 <julierawe> q+
16:19:14 <lisa> ack j
16:20:13 <julierawe> q+
16:21:19 <lisa> ack next
16:23:04 <lisa> ack next
16:25:58 <lisa> next item
16:26:02 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Lets cancel the Thursday subgroup meeting as we don't have all the right people this week.
16:27:05 <Eric_hind> Lisa: RTQF meeting; when to meet with RTQF? (Collaborative work).   Need time to clear up any misunderstandings.
16:27:58 <Eric_hind> David: RTQF had suggestions and would like to meet either the 13th or 20th; or even the week after (27th).
16:29:09 <kirkwood> that works
16:29:18 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Either 27th, or while CSUN is happening on the 20th.  Jennie, John and David are most critical attendees.
16:29:33 <Jennie> * I can't make the 20th. The 27th I can make.
16:30:43 <lisa> https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_apa
16:31:24 <lisa> This teleconference is scheduled Wednesdays at 10:00 until 11:00
16:31:34 <Eric_hind> Lisa: This would be at 2PM UK - likely 10 AM EST
16:31:42 <lisa> Boston time.
16:33:13 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Lets lock in the 27th at 9 AM EST, 2 PM UK for RTQF meeting.
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16:34:31 <Jennie> @DavidSwallow: can you share a calendar invite with a link to the documents we should be prepared to discuss, once you confirm the date and time?
16:34:43 <Eric_hind> Lisa: This is all about collaborative documents - please attend if you'd like.
16:34:55 <lisa> next item
16:35:45 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Github editors meeting, will send out times and dates tomorrow to fill in best times to attend the training.
16:35:48 <lisa> next item
16:35:53 <lisa> close item 7
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16:36:28 <Eric_hind> Becca: Conversational interfaces, 2 items to ask group about
16:37:16 <Eric_hind> Becca: Issue paper on Conversational Voice Systems, all comments integrated but two issues
16:37:55 <Eric_hind> Becca: Item 1 on algorithmic bias, this feels out of scope of this issue paper or something we can point to from this document.
16:37:56 <lisa> q?
16:39:49 <lisa> Q?
16:40:01 <Eric_hind> Becca: There was a specific feedback about AI bias against cognitive disabilities; are there other resources out there related to that?
16:41:22 <Eric_hind> Becca: No academic searches have given useful results (yet).  Worth trying again with more specific queries.
16:41:44 <lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HjUFhA43mmdysNWEo5SfHqmh4l-gPc8m7A2SZzUq_6Y/edit#heading=h.1pak97yeyy5y
16:41:49 <lisa> safety
16:42:18 <Jennie> @Becca_Monteleone: if you haven't already, maybe check with https://www.naric.com/?q=en/content/cf-rehab-adv-search
16:42:31 <lisa> - conversational interfaces paper   see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B1vCqlU1IF5UmqxhJAy8Khdi-kRQNPalVX8f3lCMr7w/edit#heading=h.9j8rnhzb9sv8
16:42:44 <Jennie> q+
16:43:08 <Eric_hind> Becca: May include some searches with aging to help the search process. John will also work on this particular comment.
16:43:15 <lisa> ack next
16:43:57 <Eric_hind> Jennie: Has provided digest of useful materials (to Becca)
16:44:39 <Eric_hind> Tiffany: Those with alternative communication devices can also be impacted; recommend using those as additional search terms.
16:46:00 <Eric_hind> Becca: Second Issue, ask on mental health as a general note as related to Conversational voice system.  Such as anxiety, cognitive load, negative experiences  with conversational systems, etc.
16:46:44 <lisa> q?
16:47:20 <Eric_hind> Becca: Will leave second issue as is for now and continue to finish up first issue.
16:48:20 <Eric_hind> John: Is there any research related to voice male/female voices?  Becca will review this aspect too.
16:48:37 <lisa> next item
16:50:06 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Safety issue paper, not many comments given 2 week window.  Do people want more time or are there more comments to come?
16:50:21 <Eric_hind> q+
16:50:37 <lisa> ack next
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16:51:04 <lisa> omments in safety issue paper: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HjUFhA43mmdysNWEo5SfHqmh4l-gPc8m7A2SZzUq_6Y/edit#heading=h.1pak97yeyy5y
16:51:25 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Will give it another week - link in the IRC (Safety Issue paper)
16:52:59 <Jennie> q+
16:53:29 <lisa> ack next
16:53:39 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Supported decision making as a scenario that promotes autonomy but provides safety.  It is a complex topic but should it be merged with  W3C or a stand alone solution.
16:54:46 <Jennie> * Here's the Volunteers of America page: https://www.voamnwi.org/center-excellence-supported-decision-making
16:55:42 <Eric_hind> Jennie: Minnesota has a new program related to this; making a paper (per the volunteers of America link) would be timely if we can get a draft done.
16:56:13 <Rachael> +1 to doing it. If noone else steps up before June, I can pick it up mid-June. Just not before.
16:56:21 <Eric_hind> John: I would be supportive of this
16:56:26 <Eric_hind> Lisa:  would also be a good time to get other (new) volunteers to get feedback on.
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16:57:31 <Eric_hind> Jennie: These kinds of statutes may be changing in many states; this may be very dynamic in that sense.
16:58:46 <lisa> resolution. try and make separate issue paper on guided desion making
16:58:56 <lisa> subject to our yime and ability
16:59:09 <Eric_hind> Lisa: A document related to this would be useful to a lot of people.  We should try to make a separate paper on guided decision making, subject to our time and ability.
16:59:40 <lisa> pulling content out of safty issue paper into supported desion making
16:59:40 <Eric_hind> John: Clarify, this is on Supported Decision Making
16:59:54 <lisa> +1
17:00:30 <julierawe> Have to drop for another meeting, thanks
17:00:39 <Rachael> +1 to separate paper
17:00:42 <kirkwood> +1
17:00:44 <Eric_hind> +1 to separate paper
17:00:46 <Jennie> + 1 to separate paper
17:00:47 <Frankie> +1
17:00:50 <tburtin> +1 to separate paper
17:00:55 <Frankie> Happy to help
17:01:18 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Strong consensus for separate paper after vote
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