W3C

– DRAFT –
Adapt Task Force Monday May 15 Weekly Teleconference

15 May 2023

Attendees

Present
janina, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk, Roy, russell, Sharon
Regrets
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Chair
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Scribe
janina, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk

Meeting minutes

Administrivia: Meeting on Memorial Day?

suptopic: Zoom

Zoom

janina: W3C now has its own Zoom set-up. Matthew, Roy, and I were able to play with it last week, and it has some really cool accessibility features.

janina: Interlinear translations are now possible, e.g. you can show what someone's saying in both Chinese and English.

janina: We'll find out soon if we can pin the ASL interpreter (i.e. if they are meeting the RAUR).
… ( https://www.w3.org/TR/raur/ )

janina: We will have new meeting details for the group and TF meetings.
… We will make an announcement to all groups.
… The W3.org teleconf info page will remain at the same address, but the meeting ID will change.

Meetings in the next couple of weeks

Sharon: Memorial day is the 29th, and US won't be able to make it.

matatk: I can't make the 29th either (UK holiday).

Lionel_Wolberger: We _will_ meet on the 22nd, but not on the 29th.

A11y4Children ontology follow-ups

Lionel_Wolberger: janina sent her email to ping them.

matatk: Wanted to ask if we may see them at TPAC.

janina: Not yet (wanted to concentrate on current message/work).

matatk: WFM

Issue 240, w3c/adapt#240

russell: There is a problem with using the Unicode code points for IDs, in that we are tying the ID to the graphical representation. That's not the way it works with the BCI IDs, and I don't think it's the way it should work,
… because the graphical reprsesentation can change. This has happened, becuase things do change. Almost every [Bliss] release, there are modifications to a small number of the symbols.

Lionel_Wolberger: This brings to mind primary key; the Unicode CPs don't sound like appropriate primary keys.

janina: Thanks russell for your perspective on this. The W3C view would, and should, be that the primary key is tied to the concept, not the representation.

janina: Remembering from college, a lesson that signs and symbosl are not the same thing.

s/not the representation

russell: Something that can happen with the BCI ID system is that it is possible to get two IDs that refer to essentially the same concept, but they are natural cases that can happen with language, as representations (like spellings) change.

janina: This is great stuff russell, and the right approach to thinking on it to've taken.

janina: We'd like to leave the follow-up with you; you're welcome to draft a reply and we can respond on the Adapt list.

Lionel_Wolberger: I'll take the action to draft our response.

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Maybe present: suptopic

All speakers: janina, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk, russell, Sharon, suptopic

Active on IRC: janina, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk, Roy, russell, Sharon