Meeting minutes
New Issue Triage
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jcraig to look into it
per jamesn
no idea for milestone yet
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already a pr
Siri:
this was discussed, if matt is here discuss during deep dive?
whether combobox select only , list box may or may not need aria label
apg says if listbox is part of comobobox, no label needed
conflict in documentation
jamesn: jogund has done a pr
separate deep dive?
listboxes donte need a11y name?
if in combobox
milestone 1.3
#113
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jamesn: valerie discuss later?
yes
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jamesn: yes it doesn't match non normative section needs update
about disambiguation
preferred syntax for those kind of elememts
assinged to jscriag
1723
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jamesn: 1.4
we need to look at mathml
Joan has done some mathml in the past, adding Siri too
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1722
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jamesn: should be filed against browsers?
spec change here?
New PR Triage
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jamesn: it is reasonable
doen'st work with label, Bryan agrees
jamesn: will review
and Siri
will review
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update / expand input value mappings
jamesn: it's an html aam thing
sarah: related to combobox work
jamesn: almost a prereque
sarah: will take a look
jamesn: aaron may not have time
jamesn: james assigned as well
Deep Dive planning - Next week OpenUI, week after <Dialog>
Open UI, help and guide them
not an in depth look
more like these are the things we are working on
weve lost touch
more engagement needed
we could help them get a11y implementation
jamesn: working on formal agenda
diaogs will be first week of may
may 19?
GAAD is on that date
may have conflicting events
Bryan G is unavailable
we may want to attend other events
jamesn: proposes cancelling
no objections
1.2 Status
spectranaut: 3 items from 1.2 are unfinished
aria value now on spinbutton requires core AAM changes that are not cleared
it is "at risk"
jamesn: we can drop it
spectranaut: go to spec or I can just talk
spectranaut: aria-valuenow is mapped to a range value that doesn't have a concept of no value in ATK and UIA
what do we do in those cases?
who do we who to reach out to
aaronlev: ATK would not support the value interface
spectranaut: joanies suggestion is to add state indeterminate
jamesn: what does input type=number when there is no value
sarah: not sure, need to check spec html
jamesn: jamesn: does it have to have a value in html?
aaronlev: I think it might have to have it
sarah: we will check or they will
jamesn: we should just do whatever that does
(referring in input type=number)
has zero in IAA
jamesn: should never have put that in in the first place
sarah: makes sense for arrow keys to work
no idea why not shown visually
jamesn: seems like a bug
but not aria
sarah: min max should not default to 0
sarah: it doesn't make sense to not have a value
jamesn: yep
jamesn: rendering with nothing there makes no sense
spectranaut: seems like there are questions
jamesn: timeline is longer then we want to have
jamesn: pulls this out
any objections?
call for concensus needed
may be beeded
jamesn: no default valuenow for spin button, no implementations of it
jamesn: it seems like it could change
jamesn: will discuss procedure to pull out
spectranaut: 2 other things missing implementations
do we push for implementations
jamesn: Gecko exposes everything already
thats what they do
aaronlev: linux and blink are 2 diff implementations
jamesn: that one is ok
role desc on generic -
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aaronlev: if there is no patch
cant' make next public seed
jamesn: double checking
items at risk
it is there
jamesn: don't want to pull it out but it seems reasonable
just removing it from prohibited states and properties
jamesn: is there anywhere else where it is prohibited
would be wierd
aaronlev: generic already implemented in chromium?
yes implemented on chrome
aaronlev: earliest is late summer not a high priority for webkit
if getting into webkit source, might happen
from now to fall it is ramped down to only critical bugs
this is not critical
jamesn: will anyone object to text for role description
jcraig: put in the note to plan to prohibit it
spectranaut: seems reasonable
jamesn: have to ship it
spectranaut: suggest a note to add
jamesn: a way to prohibit for authors
jamesn: have to talk to micheal
spectranaut: ok we have a way forward
Update authoring requirement for aria-selected on options - reviews needed from @chlane @mcking65
jamesn: done
Support aria-description
jamesn: outstanding comments still
When is hidden content taken into calculation of name and description? - reviews needed from @cookiecrook @cyns @jnurthen -> @MelSumner
jamesn: hidden content, waiting for reviews, it has been merged
still would like jcraig to review
jamesn: it is critical for jcraig to review
can't have it in the spec if not passing jcraigs review
pr 150
aaronlev: ping if needed