W3C

Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference

13 May 2021

Attendees

Present
Kathy, Wilco, Trevor, Susan
Regrets

Chair
Wilco
Scribe
Kathy

Contents


Joint meetings with Silver

<Wilco> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/94845/2021-05-ACT-Joint-Meeting-Prep/

wilco: tomorrow and next Friday Joint meeting all of AG invited to figure out ACT with wcag3
... forwarded invitation from Jeanne

<Wilco> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/ACT_-_Silver_Joint_Meeting_May_2021#Session_1

wilco: please fill out survey to help prepare

trevor: can we push rule reviews a week out?

wilco: will change due dates of 5/29 to 6/3

ACT rules checks sheet

<Wilco> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OSkPFocXk4K3zYLnwS78WLsWO4PvE5yRcsauyefuIUI/edit#gid=0&fvid=507619053

<trevor> kathy: passed examples 1,2, and 3, didn't think the name of the link "contact us" was correct for the content that it linked to

<trevor> kathy: it was just a link to content but no contact information

<trevor> wilco: agree, think that is a good suggestion, does it prevent publishing

<trevor> kathy: I think so. it would fail the s.c. it is trying to pass

<trevor> wilco: So just change contact us to about us. Will make PR to fix this and then we can publish as proposal

wilco: will review again with Susan

trevor: for next, don't like publishing two rules that are nearly identical

wilco: different Expectation - one has 20 hr exception, other does not

trevor: also assumption difference
... maybe just add a description to background on differences

wilco: yes the no exception one should have something in the background
... I think this is editorial. open an issue or PR?

trevor: yes

wilco: mark as accepted ok
... no keyboard shortcut has issues

<trevor> kathy: for passed example had trouble getting it to work as it should

<trevor> kathy: for the expectation, missing a mechanism to disable the shortcut

<trevor> kathy: unsure if the example not working as expected should stop. it provides two methods, but only one works. description says both should work

<trevor> kathy: the expectation needs a third bullet that it can be disabled

<trevor> wilco: what can be disabled

<trevor> kathy: definition required that the shortcut can be disabled

wilco: mark as blocked
... next rule orientation
... kathy's issue - doesn't need to support rotating device, only when opened

<trevor> kathy: in the understanding document, it includes 2 failure techniques. both of them only check when the application is opened

<Wilco> https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Techniques/failures/F97

<trevor> kathy: the scenario they describe, is when a certain orientation is required that is available

<trevor> kathy: nothing about having it opened and having it reorient correctly

<trevor> wilco: Agree the failure tehniques, but unsure if the S.C. doesn't cover it. The S.C. doesn't limit it, so unsure why it wouldn't be true after rotating the device

<trevor> wilco: I think at the very least there is a missing assumption. Would think the current rule is a reasonable interpretation, don't think it directly contradicts WCAG. Clarification would be useful though

<trevor> wilco: May need to ask AG for clarification.

<trevor> kathy: I think the examples would pass either scenario. Its just a matter of getting the right interpretation

<trevor> wilco: I think we would add an assumption and open an issue w/ AG

Next week's TF meeting

wilco: since we don't have assignments for next week, should we have a meeting?

trevor: we might have a couple rules to discuss next week

wilco: so we'll have the meeting

Reviewing pull requests

<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pulls

wilco: talking to Daniel. TF should get more involved in community work
... lots of open PR that needed reviewing

susan: when we review rules, should we be checking if open PRs?

wilco: yes

trevor: do we just leave comments or being one of the approvers?

wilco: our role is changing. we will also create PRs and should review PRs. maybe need a TF label? especially for unblocking rules that are blocked
... these will be fairly lightweight reviews.
... maybe a TF label to create visibility

susan: we have time so yes

wilco: there's 3 PRs. will need 3 reviewers

<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/1611

<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/1610

<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/1609

kathy: should we open a PR when reviewing rules?

wilco: for smaller changes, yes that would be helpful. In rule, use "propose a change" link to create a PR

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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