W3C

– DRAFT –
ARIA WG

04 March 2021

Attendees

Present
carmacleod, CurtBellew, Irfan, jcraig, Jemma, Joanmarie_Diggs, Jory, Mark, Matt, Michael, pkra, Scott_O, Siri, StefanS, Tammy
Regrets
Harris, MelanieS
Chair
JamesNurthen
Scribe
Jemma

Meeting minutes

<StefanS> preasent+

New Issue Triage<https://bit.ly/3rfdolo>

New PR Triage<https://bit.ly/3bYma0D>

<carmacleod> jamesn: regarding very draft PR https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1413

<carmacleod> jamesn: need to get some people to comment on this, get discussion going

Meaty topic for next week<https://bit.ly/3c2bT3o>

<pkra> https://github.com/w3c/accname/discussions

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/accname/discussions/113

<carmacleod> jamesn: joanie would like people to take a look at this

ARIA in HTML review requested

<carmacleod> jamesn: scott would like horizontal review

<carmacleod> Scott_O: there are still a few more things to finalize

<carmacleod> jamesn: can we get a list of the changes?

<carmacleod> Scott_O: yes, I'll create one

Daylight savings time in US starts Mar 14, 2021

<carmacleod> jamesn: Heads up that meeting time in Europe will be different from US for a couple of weeks

1.3 triage<https://bit.ly/2NWeP9K>

<pkra> +1

<Scott_O> +1

<StefanS> +1

<carmacleod> jamesn: Propose that we stop scribing and just put comments in issues

<carmacleod> +1

<StefanS> +1

<pkra> https://github.com/w3c/aria/projects/13#card-34792621

<pkra> gotta drop off for a bit.

<joanie> https://bit.ly/2NWeP9K

<carmacleod> Here's the link: https://bit.ly/2NWeP9K

<carmacleod> we are at the very bottom of the first page

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/879

scribe?

rragent, make minutes

rrsagents, make minutes

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/925

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/966

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/976

we need to double check all the boolean values. close as duplicate

"aria-atomic would be exposed as a platform Accessibility API boolean state

It doesn't have the value "", undefined or no attribute present

so it would be exposed as tru"

sign 976 this to Alice

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/986

mck: ran into real life issue that it is not working in reality
… then I saw this issue.

joanni: it is more depth thing, it can be 1.4

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/989

car: I just need to know which direction we are going

mck: having difficulty to understand Aaron's comment

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/995

mck: I cannot commit it to be included 1.3

scott: we should not remove it

jamesn: we can talk to AT about the expectation

mck; need to be carful to approach this

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1008

joanie and matt said no to this

mck and james:it will be a good first issue

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1015

there will be PR

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1017

mck: AT should not do monitoring
… it would be browser side
… screen reader is flaky because browser should do the work like live region case

<pkra> have to drop off again. bye everyone.

jamesn: I will assign this to myself be it is important

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1019

jonnie: I don't think it is a good idea

mck: it is author confusion issue

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1022

jamesn: consensus is doing it but whether it is 1.3 or 14

joannie: it was fixed in ff, by screen readers.

implentation is done

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1024

mck: this one is not clear to unlike aria pos set. it will be 1.4

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1026

from matt, "Now, we have complete resolution of that issue with the ARIA 1.2 combobox changes and there is no need for expanded on listbox. We could deprecate expanded on listbox. Then, we could either warn against using that pattern in APG and point people to the select-only combobox or remove the collapsable listbox example completely."

assigned to sarah

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1028

leave it to bryan to take care of at 1.3

scott: html overlap issue.

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1031

keep it as 1.3

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1033

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1038

jamec: we can move this to 1.4 since we will have api for htis

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1050

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1055

<Jory_> Need to hop off but I will look for "Good First Issue" tag issues and try to pick one up!

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