W3C

Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference

20 Feb 2020

Attendees

Present
Wilco, MaryJo, Trevor, KathyEng, Charu
Regrets

Chair
MaryJo, Wilco
Scribe
Charu

Contents


Survey: HTML LANG and XML:LANG match - https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/93339/LANGXMLLANG3/results

Wilco: Comment from Detlev duplicate ids always do not cause problems
... wrong survey
... comments on assumptions

Mary Jo: missing lang in nested iframe

Wilco: usually is not a problem if the iframe has the same language
... Page is not an embedded resource and iframe is

Kathy: does iframe inherit the language?

Wilco: not always, depends on the browser
... it can cause a security issue of leaking info

Mary Jo: should not stop it from being publish

Wilco: Comment from Charu, point to spec

Mary Jo: it is there, we are ok on that

<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/1172

Mary Jo: we should point to WHATWG version and we have that

Wilco: from Jonathan, Most browsers don't use XML lang anymore
... don't agree

Mary Jo: there might be older pages

Wilco: We still have 2 to not publish

MJ: i have a no, i can be swayed

Wilco: we can remove inapplicable example 4 and 5 are inconsistent with the SC, i can open an issue with the CG for that
... I think we can move this forward with comment

Survey: ID attribute value is unique - https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/93339/IDisUnique2/results

Wilco: Comment from Detlev, duplicate ids are problematic always, i am ok with that

MJ: should not affect publication but we should put the comment to let them know

Wilco: What if we put examples of know issues with duplicate ids

MJ: not clear from the comment what he is asking to do

Kathy: i like Wilco's suggestion of adding examples of known failures

Wilco: will create an issue
... should not stop publication

MJ: agree

Survey: iFrame element has accessible name - https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/93339/iFrameName/results

Wilco: we have examples with display:none and one with role of presentation and tabindex=-1
... tabindex=-1 removes it from tab ring

Kathy: Ok we can strike my comment

Wilco: agree with Trevor to remove example 4
... should that hold publish?

Trevor: are we publishing any rules with ":-)"

Wilco: no
... moving on issue 1170
... Browser usually moves focus to the first element
... iframes are not always focusable and difficult to define what makes it focusable so we need to tweak the language
... Is this a blocker?

MJ: not sure

Trevor: we have enough issues, i think it might be a blocker

Survey: HTML Page language is valid: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/93339/HTMLLangValid2/results

Wilco: issues have not been resolved

MJ: Failed ex 2 becomes pass

<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/1106/files#diff-cbdc63bc4aa1335fe1dd3d7ef55df2dbL76

MJ: once pull request is merged

Wilco: ok then that will happen and the rule can publish

Survey: Button has an accessible name - https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/93339/ButtonName2/results

Wilco: Results have no from Kathy and MJ
... stuck on summary, close, should it be?
... conflicting info in specs, spec that says no has priority

MJ: so which one is right?

Wilco: HTML to API should be correct and has priority then HTML in ARIA
... so blocker or not?

MJ: so what is right?

Wilco: our rule is inconsistent with the spec
... so no to publish, we will fix the issue

Survey: HTML has lang attribute - https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/93339/HTMLLang2/results

Wilco: from Kathy, not enough implementers
... i think this is ready to go
... So we have 4 that we can publish

MJ: we have one more ready to go
... so we have 5 to go to CFC

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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