Closing Task Forces? – should we close the User Agent Implementation, DPub and SVG TFs?

Joanie: dont see any reason to to keep task force open.

I got disconnected.. dialing again.. sorry

<Stefan> Irfan, has this meeting ended?

Matt: met a person from MS who attended the Silver Task force design sprint in SD, who said that she would be taking over the accessibility work

<joanie> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2018Apr/0063.html

<joanie> I can’t make it to the meeting to discuss whether to close the DPUB TF, but my vote is to close it. We do plan to work on dpub-aria 1.1 shortly. I do not expect to require meetings, just occasional discussions. We are mostly dealing with errata. Happy to discuss with you and Joanie further.

Joanie: Person in-charged said that they dont want to keep it open

JN: we dont have formal task force doesn't mean that people can't talk about it.

Joanie: I keep updating core AAM. in my opinion we should have a task force and meeting when they are called

<joanie> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2018Apr/0064.html

<joanie> The SVG Accessibility Task Force has been inactive for over a year. It is

<joanie> not mentioned in the SVG working group charter approved last summer, which

<joanie> has a very narrow scope. All specifications that were previously joint

<joanie> SVG-ARIA publications, and organized through the task force, have been

<joanie> switched to being under the authority of one group or the other.

<joanie> So, it makes sense to formally close down the task force.

JN: Michael, do we have to close the task force?

agenda, next item

Personalization Location survey

<joanie> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/83726/2018-04_p13n/

JN: we have a survey on personalization location. please answer it.

Charter updates

<jamesn> https://www.w3.org/2018/03/draft-aria-charter

MC: timeline will be an important part of the charter. we will discuss the solid timeline in F2F meeting.

Joanie agrees

MK: did you recently send something in mailing list?

JN: it is still a draft charter and we are will working on it making changes

Accname Discussions – any changes before CR? Discuss nature of implementation including trailing spaces.

Joanie: lets do rest of the meeting first

IDL reflections branch of ARIA

<joanie> https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/708

<jamesn> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/attr-reflection/index.html

<jamesn> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/attr-reflection/index.html#idl-interface

JN: people need to review this.

MK: is it going to 1.3 branch?

Joanie: 1.2

Janie: this is one of those thing that we discuss at TPAC that we will support AOM

Joanie: these pages are not going to into core AAM. there are not going to be authoring practice content.

if you think that this must be documented in ARIA authoring practice that we need to hold off or make an exception

JN: this is only convenience and not required for AOM.

we will have more opinion on this in face to face meeting

F2F agenda – additions please.

<jamesn> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/wiki/Meetings/F2F_Spring_2018#Candidate_Agenda_Topics

MK: the changes that I made this morning are not obvious. they are related to AT. in F2F meeting we can discuss the AT expectations.
... need to revisit the specs about some of the items including Combo-Box.
... We can take this one any day during F2F meeting.

Stefan is not attending the meeting

Stefan: we can discuss it in TPAC

MK: I'd like to discuss it now. because we are going to write screen reader expectations

Accname Discussions – any changes before CR? Discuss nature of implementation including trailing spaces.

JN: Move on to AccName

<joanie> https://w3c.github.io/test-results/accname/less-than-2.html

Joanie: out of 161 test cases that we are running, we have 10 tasks that are failing which is not bad. lot of them are similar failure and we will talk about it. I am going to skip one of those task. A file input that doesn't have an image on the task.

<joanie> https://github.com/w3c/accname/issues/15

Joanie: implementors are putting spaces and there should not be any space
... need to review the specs to deal with space problem

<jamesn> <button><span>U</span><span>nderline</span></button>

MG: we have to figure out which element is required space and which is not.

<joanie> <label for="test">foo<input type="text" value="bar">baz</label>

<joanie> For each child node of the current node:

<joanie> Set the current node to the child node.

<joanie> Compute the text alternative of the current node beginning with step 2. Set the result to that text alternative.

<joanie> Append the result to the accumulated text.

<joanie> https://github.com/w3c/accname/issues/15

<joanie> https://rawgit.com/w3c/accname/master/

<joanie> https://whatsock.github.io/w3c-alternative-text-computation/Autogenerated%20AccName%201.1%20Testable%20Statements%20-%20W3C/Name%20test%20case%20620.html

<joanie> <input type="radio" id="test">

<joanie> <label for="test">foo<input type="text" value="bar">baz</label>

Joanie: whitespace situation needs to be discussed.

<jamesn> just as a point of reference FF adds spaces, chrome only adds spaces when display:block is set

<joanie> iii. For each child node of the current node:

<joanie> a. Set the current node to the child node.

<joanie> b. Compute the text alternative of the current node beginning with step 2. Set the result to that text alternative.

<joanie> c. Append the result to the accumulated text.

BG: I have 150 tests and every change I made thats what I had to do it go through all the code. Right now the algorithm doing is the browsers are doing.

<jamesn> Chrome is very broken ..... <input type="radio" id="test">

<jamesn> <label for="test">foo<output>bar</output>baz</label> returns foobaz

<joanie> https://w3c.github.io/test-results/accname/

<joanie> https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/tree/master/accname

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