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Reminder: Please complete survey for May F2F

jn: Anyone coming to f2f, please complete the survey!
... So for about 9 attendees, should be good mtg

TPAC: Should ARIA WG Meet at TPAC 2018

jn: Noting TPAC in Lyon this year, week of October 22

jf: Believe wcag will be on 2.2 by tpac time--shouldn't be very disruptive
... Mtg for wcag at tpac not yet discussed

js: Notes we usually try to have apa and aria on separate days

jn: Sense of the call is we can expect to meet

Re-Chartering: Draft Charter

jn: It's time!

<jamesn> https://www.w3.org/2018/03/draft-aria-charter

jn: Major work now is on the deliverables in the charter
... Reworking normative specs section
... Two in the current charter are now with other wg's
... graphics ...
... discussion on what needs to be where, with what wg, and in what in the aria charter

[discussion on how best to locate Personalization TF]

<jamesn> <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices/">WAI-ARIA Authoring Practices</a> (Note);</li>

<jamesn> <li>Test suite and implementation report for the specification;</li>

jn: may also do use cases and reqs
... also work with other wg on html, sfb, etc

<jamesn> <p>The working group expects to work with other Working groups on the following deliverables, produced by the other working group: </p>

<jamesn> <ul>

<jamesn> <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/html-aam-1.0/">HTML Accessibility API Mappings</a> (with the HTML Working Group),</li>

<jamesn> <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/svg-aam-1.0/">SVG Accessibility API Mappings</a> (with the SVG Working Group),</li>

<JF> +1

jn: Will be more discussions on charter. Expect running updates, with goal of moving it forward by early May

AccName Updates: Discussion based on mail thread

jn: noting still open issues

<jamesn> https://github.com/WhatSock/w3c-alternative-text-computation/issues

jn: where expectations are in doubt
... looking at the first name combobox issue 11

bg: issues processing title attrib
... no way to set combobox value

jn: is that the problem?

bg: only on those that receive focus
... concern to set accessible name

jn: what needs to change?

bg: same algo as other widgets

jn: so expected result?

jf: concerned where alt and title text

bg: when both are the same, the dup is dropped -- no descript

jf: should get this documented

jn: so change test case?

bg: yes

jn: should say e.g. alt, not title
... next presentational role test

bg: image example only one that seems contradictory

jn: asks bg to log issue ...
... name checkbox label embedded textbox

bg: modify combobox or listbox ??

jn: sounds good. think i understand
... just something missing from the spec. not sure when/how to fix though

bg: file for future?

jn: do need to park the text
... maybe no ref to listbox
... child listbox would be ok

bg: yes
... already in test archive

jn: and passed/

bg: yes

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jn: Other business?

bg: aria-hidden false?
... need agreement

jn: test case link?

bg: not offhand

[discussion on why aria-hidden is still in spec]

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/705

jn: notes an open issues, so can track

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