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14 Sep 2017

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Attendees

Present
janina, lisa, AndyHeath, JanMcSorley, Pietro, kirkwood
Regrets
E.A._Draffan, Jim_Griesemer
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
Jan

Contents


<lisa> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page

<lisa> ok. janina was there so we could touch base. I added timelines to our wiki. u can take a look

<lisa> someone has joined the webex called "tink" :(

<lisa> scribe: Jan

updates: TPAC, Personalization TF, Disseminating wcag 2.1

<lisa> https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/

Lisa: WCAG 2.1 latest working draft is published, so we need to get people to comment
... share the https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/ link with people and organizations who can distribute to people who can comment on it

<lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EVnmFO6l8nAdBs5UiasJnZz3Ri_diKcoz8peoPWTm4Q/edit

Lisa: this link will help people know how to comment - it's a bit out of date, but can help them get started

Time line of next items

Lisa: it's important to comment on WCAG 2.1 by October 10, 2017 to help us prove the importance of the COGA SCs and perhaps even get them a higher level of importance.

<lisa> https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/

<lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EVnmFO6l8nAdBs5UiasJnZz3Ri_diKcoz8peoPWTm4Q/edit

Lisa: We really need people to ask questions like, "Why is this at AAA instead of AA or A?"

<lisa> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page#About_This_Page

Lisa: Main tasks we need to focus on are (1) Supporting WCAG - help things stay in, build techniques, write supporting comments and address concerns
... (2) Roadmap - how to help people make content that is inclusive of people with cognitive disabilities - would like to have this done by February, but want to work on this in tandem with WCAG
... (3) Issue papers - would also like this done by the end of February
... (4) Research module on stress and anxiety to be completed around April

Neil: I don't have a lot of bandwidth, but will introduct Mark Wilcock to Lisa via our W3C rep
... Mark may have more bandwidth to help with these tasks

Techniques for WCAG 2.1 support https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YiknHDDDdKBdwVTEpxwUpyCaQL_tnpp9CfDlFjCq16E/edit?usp=sharing

Lisa: The techniques document is currently in a Google Doc and will eventually be moved into github - I have made a template for each one that I think we need to add
... we have these as suggested techniques in the understandings document, but we need to fill them up.
... for accessible authentification - we need 2 or 3 examples of different levels of security that demonstrate ease of implementation
... purpose of controls - at least 2
... interruptions - at least 1
... time out at least 2

<lisa> can every one do one?

Neil: We could help with purpose of controls

Lisa: Hoping John and Mike will take on accessible authentication

<lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YiknHDDDdKBdwVTEpxwUpyCaQL_tnpp9CfDlFjCq16E/edit#heading=h.t7d70b6ib80

Andy will work on timeout

<lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YiknHDDDdKBdwVTEpxwUpyCaQL_tnpp9CfDlFjCq16E/edit#

John Kirkwood will work on techniques for interruptions

Lisa: We need to try to get these techniques done soon
... at the top of the techniques document is a link to the understanding document

<lisa> ACTION: lisa ask John r, and mike to take on an accessible authfication technque [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-coga-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-234 - Ask john r, and mike to take on an accessible authfication technque [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-09-21].

Implementations

Lisa: We are going to need real-world examples of where these things are implemented - good practice and bad practice would be ideal to show people that this can be done

Full information and supplement https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit?usp=sharing

Lisa: Now we are going to discuss the Google Doc on Making Inclusive Content - link is listed above

Jan: Shari Butler from Pearson can look at this document and start helping Lisa fill things in
... EO representatives need to participate in a meeting soon to help us with this document

<lisa> ACTION: jan to ask shari abour ull information and supplement https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit?usp=sharing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-coga-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-235 - Ask shari abour ull information and supplement https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wcfvalvq8ps9clxuuafv9op0wxvi2yjyedj5jo23gtk/edit?usp=sharing [on Jan McSorley - due 2017-09-21].

<lisa> ACTION: jan and lisa to do a technique on monday [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-coga-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-236 - And lisa to do a technique on monday [on Jan McSorley - due 2017-09-21].

Lisa: Jan and I need to work through a technique so that Jan knows how to write a technique and then for the next two weeks, we can discuss where people may be stuck on their techniques to help people get the ball rolling.

<lisa> ACTION: lisa to add some content to ull information and supplement https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit?usp=sharing as examples [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-coga-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-237 - Add some content to ull information and supplement https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wcfvalvq8ps9clxuuafv9op0wxvi2yjyedj5jo23gtk/edit?usp=sharing as examples [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-09-21].

Next issue papers https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B1vCqlU1IF5UmqxhJAy8Khdi-kRQNPalVX8f3lCMr7w/edit?usp=sharing

Lisa: This link is for the issue paper on Conversational interfaces and voice systems
... things like Alexa
... Google assist
... Google assistant
... Pietro - can you please fill out use cases for people who are autistic?

<Pietro> OK

<Pietro> but I need some help

JohnK: I can help Pietro with this

<lisa> ACTION: Pietro to work with John K. to fill out agendum 6. "Next issue papers https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B1vCqlU1IF5UmqxhJAy8Khdi-kRQNPalVX8f3lCMr7w/edit?usp=sharing for people who are autistic [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-coga-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-238 - Work with john k. to fill out agendum 6. "next issue papers https://docs.google.com/document/d/1b1vcqlu1if5umqxhjay8khdi-krqnpalvx8f3lcmr7w/edit?usp=sharing for people who are autistic [on Pietro Cirrincione - due 2017-09-21].

<NeilMilliken> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAz_UvnUeuU

Neil: It's going to be more difficult for people to memorize commands more than the natural language recognition - the aim is that if you can be understood by a human, you should be able to be understood by conversational interfaces

Lisa: these use cases need to include, anxiety, stress, ill-health, etc.

<lisa> ACTION: Action Andy to build refrence to iso and sugestion into for translation to symbols or translation to good natrial langages : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B1vCqlU1IF5UmqxhJAy8Khdi-kRQNPalVX8f3lCMr7w/edit?usp=sharing for people who are autistic [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-coga-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Error finding 'Action'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.

<lisa> type rrsagent, make logs public

<lisa> type rrsagent, create minutes

<lisa> then check it works (it takes a few tries)

<lisa> once it works and we have minutes

<lisa> type zakim, please part

<lisa> then... type rrsagent, please part

<lisa> send minutes to the list

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Action Andy to build refrence to iso and sugestion into for translation to symbols or translation to good natrial langages : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B1vCqlU1IF5UmqxhJAy8Khdi-kRQNPalVX8f3lCMr7w/edit?usp=sharing for people who are autistic [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-coga-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: jan and lisa to do a technique on monday [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-coga-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: jan to ask shari abour ull information and supplement https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit?usp=sharing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-coga-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: lisa ask John r, and mike to take on an accessible authfication technque [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-coga-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: lisa to add some content to ull information and supplement https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit?usp=sharing as examples [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-coga-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Pietro to work with John K. to fill out agendum 6. "Next issue papers https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B1vCqlU1IF5UmqxhJAy8Khdi-kRQNPalVX8f3lCMr7w/edit?usp=sharing for people who are autistic [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-coga-minutes.html#action05]
 

Summary of Resolutions

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Present: janina lisa AndyHeath JanMcSorley Pietro kirkwood
Regrets: E.A._Draffan Jim_Griesemer
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People with action items: ask jan john lisa mike pietro r

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