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Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference

08 Dec 2016

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
jongund, Janina, Joanmarie_Diggs, matt_king, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Joseph_Scheuhammer
Regrets
Chair
Rich
Scribe
mck

Contents


<richardschwerdtfeger> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2016Dec/0011.html

<richardschwerdtfeger> scribe: mck

Authoring Practices Publication

<MichaelC> ARIA APG

MC: That's link to latest editor's draft

rs: what's new about this version?

mk: This draft is shorter with signifcantly rewrites and new examples

rs: when will you be done?

mk: we will publish a version at the same time that aria 1.1 is PR

RESOLUTION: Publish workinheart beat draft of authoring practices during week of dec 12

mk: can we have a standing resoltuion to publish authroing practices until aria 1.1 goes to pr

rs: no issue with that

RESOLUTION: Authroing Practices TF has group consensus to publish heart beat drafts of authoring practices until aria 1.1 is PR

Update on core AAM and dpub

js: a lot of info from microsoft

rs: mapping for many roles

js: waiting on apple and axapi mappings for the same things

rs: no update on webkit so far

js: James Craig has added links to webkit bugs in some issues

rs: hoping by Jan we see some axapi updats
... dpub aam, have been waiting on ms

Have some updates on that from ms too.

May be ready to do CR for DPUB, Core, and AccName in Jan

js: about 20 actions open.

rs: Are they all Mac?

js: No

<clown> action-1723

<trackbot> action-1723 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Editorial - create sections listing the roles that provide (1) nameFrom:author and (2) nameFrom:contents -- due 2016-08-17 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/1723

<clown> action-1732

<trackbot> action-1732 -- Michael Cooper to Work on conformance section for mappings (note there is a section, but change id=conformance so respec picks up) -- due 2015-10-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/1732

Test

jg: Mostly working on APG this week ad didn't have a a test call

Still need test adapters for MSAA

Joanie: ATK/AT-SPI2 adapter is mostly done; still have some polish to do

rs: working with Freedom Scientific. They have many features iin Firefox mapping except shortcut keys
... Google has work in progress; Firefox is mostly done with mappings.
... Working with Freedom Scientific and NVDA to get interlocked wtih our group

/me thanks Joanie

jg: Next week will be working on msaa/ia2 adapter

ARIA in HTML

rs: Jon, I gave you feedback on your review

jg: one question is about address element, which they want to map to contentinfo

js: think they recently changed the definition of address

it used to apply to the entire page and be about credential or something like that

contentinfo doesn't sound wrong for the old definition.

jg: ARIA talks about having only one contentinfo for the page.

this could generate contentinfo all over the place and create landmark polution.

mk: address should not map to a landmark role

<clown> old definition of <address>: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/address

<jongund> https://www.w3.org/wiki/ARIA_in_HTML_Comments

rs: color, clandar ... browsers have different rendering per browser; it is not necessarily text field

jg: color, date, time do nto default to textboxes?

rs: right. color, could be a picker,

jg: no corresponding role is fine?

rs: yes

jn: it is not defined in the spec what the implementers need to do for those html elements

jg: maybe we should have somethig that allows the browser to do something that corresponds to their specific implementation.

something different from no corresponding role for the mapping.

rs: Michael, can we merge this our comments with the APA grou comments?

mc: it is possible

Janina: except we have an APA requirement to run a CFC for all our comments on spec

jg: for canvas, no corresponding role is OK?

rs: should be img

You cna always override them. At one point we tried region for canvas, but default is still img.

jg: so canvas should be tied mapped to img
... svg element says no corresponding role for mapping

mc: ARIA in HTML has not been updated to recognize the ARIA grhics module

<richardschwerdtfeger> Default Platform WAI-ARIA Role Mappings graphics-document

<richardschwerdtfeger> graphics-document

rs: the graphics module is not yet to CR

<richardschwerdtfeger> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/svg-aam/svg-aam.html

Just leave the mapping of no corresponding role for now

mc: Perhps this issue should be filed as an ARIA comment not an APa comment.

jg: dt and dd can be part of a definition list. In another part of the document, it does not say that posinset and setsize can be used with dt and dd

rs: rs: in ARIA, term does not support setsize and posinset\

mk: shoudl we have an aria 1.2 issue for adding posinset and setsize tfor definition and term roles?

rs: yes

<clown> https://w3c.github.io/aria/aria/aria.html#term

mc: creating issue

<clown> https://w3c.github.io/aria/aria/aria.html#definition

assigning to rich

<MichaelC> GH-ISSUE 497 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/497

abbreviations (abbhr) mapping

<richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/textlevel-semantics.html#the-abbr-element

<richardschwerdtfeger> https://w3c.github.io/html-aam/#el-abbr

rs: on Mac, abbr maps as group
... we need a new role for this

mk: agree we need a role different from group

js: dfn is also role group in mac

<MichaelC> GH-ISSUE 498 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/498

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

  1. Publish workinheart beat draft of authoring practices during week of dec 12
  2. Authroing Practices TF has group consensus to publish heart beat drafts of authoring practices until aria 1.1 is PR
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