See also: IRC log
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See minutes from joint meeting: http://www.w3.org/2016/09/19-webtv-minutes.html
Mark's presentation is here: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2016Sep/att-0021/2015-09-19_WebTVIntro_v2_.pdf
paulc: We spent so much time talking about getting V1 done that we failed to look at the specific V2 use cases
See additional uses cases: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Sep/0091.html
Discussion of the uses cases is pending.
WG Decision is here: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Sep/0093.html
Paul and Philippe are preparing the transition request.
We expect to get an MSE Recommendation by early November and that would required a charter extension until about Nov 15.
ISSUE-159 and ISSUE-163 need to be applied before the PR transition is done.
Philippe plans to publish these WG Notes at the same time as the Proposed Recommendation
We believe we have sufficient evidence to proceed to PR.
Paul will check with Matt about WebIDL tests: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Sep/0052.html
Actions:
1. Paul and Philippe to generate transition request for Proposed Recommendation
2. Matt or Editors to apply editorial fixes for issue 159 and 163
3. Paul to check with Matt on on status of WebIDL tests
4. Philippe to request charter extension for MSE until about Nov 15.
https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/milestones/V1Editorial
Only the registry SOTD issue is open: https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/183
ISSUE-312: https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/312
<trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-312 .
David has prepared a PR for this issue.
We need the browser implementers to express their opinion on whether they support David's change to a MUST here.
ISSUE-329: https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/329
<trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-329 .
There is an editorial pull request. David is discussing with Philippe.
David is working on PR https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/pull/330
https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/85 is awaiting interop evidence
Test data is that no browser is 100% compliant. Edge's implementation is still buggy.
We do not have two implementations yet.
We need to decide how to handle this at risk feature.
Mark: We need a consistent rule based on testing results and how they impact features in the spec.
Polyfill test works with Edge but that is only one implementation.
Latest test results: https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/85
Actually see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Sep/0084.html
Status: Test files without 2 passes: 34; Subtests without 2 passes: 53; Failure level: 53/220 (24.09%)
Test files: 70; Total subtests: 220
From the less than 2 results: http://w3c.github.io/test-results/encrypted-media/less-than-2.html
a) We need to convert the Google tests before evaluating these failures
b) Keystatus results pass on Chrome but fail on FF and Edge for different reasons
Edge bug has been filed but Mark does not have a useful URL
FF bug needs to be filed.
c) Persistent usage and Persistent license need reviewing since we don't have two implementations
Persisten license is implemented in Chrome OS. It might be in Edge and this needs to be checked.
Persistent usage record is only implemented in Edge and is not compliant.
Deleting the presistent usage record and persistent license features would leave only temporary session types.
d) Event sequences are not completely compliant on several browsers because they don't do what the spec says.
Note also the outstanding test suite PRs: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Apr%20is%3Aopen%20label%3Aencrypted-media
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Sep/0089.html
see Paul's list of pending/outstanding test work:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Sep/0092.html
Mark and Stefan (from CTA WAVE project) will reply to Paul's email with a testing work plan.
https://dev.w3.org/html5/status/formal-objection-status.html
As per above it appears that we need until about Nov 15 to get MSE to Recommendation
Jerry is working on a version of the test results that added Mark's polyfill code to fix bugs in an implementation
Mark: We need to decide how to
use these kinds of test results
... We have some larger Javascript "patches" for entire
features and if these are the only implementation then they
will be harder to use
We will ask Jerry to generate results that use polyfills that fix bug in browsers implementations.
In addition there are some additional bugs that might be able to be fixed by additional polyfills.
Mark will look into the new polyfils (when the new testing help is on board and doing other work).
We talked about the EME status this morning at the joint meeting.
We need to engage quickly to generate a broader test suite, generate the results from the test suite, decide what feature are not intoperable, decide if we need to cut features and give Philippe a firm schedule on a Proposed Recommendation.
We are up against a deadline of our charter expiry on Sep 30.
Philippe last week stated that he wanted a timetable and plan by this week.
Attendance at meeting:
Paul Cotton, Microsoft (Chair)
Chris Wilson, Google
Cyril Concolato, Telecom Paris Tech
Satoshi Nishimura, NHK
Kazuhiro Hoya, JBA
Eric Carlson, Apple
Mark Watson, Netflix
Gary Kacmarcik, Google
Mike Assenti, Dolby
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