W3C

Device and Sensors Working Group Teleconference

08 Sep 2016

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Andrey_Logvinov, Dominique_Hazael-Massieux, Anssi_Kostiainen
Regrets
Frederick
Chair
Dom
Scribe
dom

Contents


Minutes approval

RESOLUTION: Minutes from 25 Aug 2016 are approved,

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Aug/0029.html

Battery

Anssi: no news from marcos or domenic
... I'll ping marcos

Vibration

Dom: thanks for sending the gamepad reqs https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Sep/0002.html
... what conclusions should we draw from it on the need for a v2?

anssi: not sure yet, will need to look more into it
... probably useful fodder for the VR workshop
... we can put that topic on hold until we hear more

Concrete Sensors

<scribe> ACTION: Dom to send transition request for FPWD of concrete sensors [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-772 - Send transition request for fpwd of concrete sensors [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2016-09-15].

Anssi: implementation status updates: we have a working implementation and have a compass demo webapp which we will show at TPAC
... we'll share our implementation feedback, as well as a developer feedback

dom: so that confirms that the generic sensor provides a useful framework for new sensors, right?

anssi: indeed; we'll share more at TPAC
... as long as the sensors themselves are exposed at the platform level

dom: any interest in getting these implementations to ship in browsers?

anssi: we had sent an intent to implement (which doesn't need approval), which got some positive support
... the next level is intent to ship which needs approval from the relevant owner
... my impression is that there is support, no known concern
... the only concern is about other browser vendors commitment
... I mentioned this work started from an issue raised by mozilla

<anssik> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!searchin/blink-dev/intent$20to$20implement$20gyroscope/blink-dev/_IReUkNKF6o/S1GCeqxMAAAJ

anssi: we also know another major browser vendor is actively looking at this

dom: what's your views on the privacy/permission issues?

anssi: we haven't looked at that aspect yet - we've focused on the implementation aspects
... that's next on our list - pretty much a requirement for shipping any way
... that's probably something worth discussing during our TPAC meeting
... I'd like to get experts from PING if they're around

dom: would be worth finding someone explicitly from PING

<scribe> ACTION: Dom to find a PING person for joining us at TPAC for discussion on privacy [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-773 - Find a ping person for joining us at tpac for discussion on privacy [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2016-09-15].

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-review-announce/

<anssik> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2016JulSep/0081.html

WakeLock API

<Andrey_Logvinov> https://github.com/w3c/wake-lock/issues/85

<Andrey_Logvinov> https://github.com/w3c/ping/blob/master/wake-lock-privacy.md

<scribe> ACTION: Andrey to transfer https://github.com/w3c/ping/blob/master/wake-lock-privacy.md as github issues [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-774 - Transfer https://github.com/w3c/ping/blob/master/wake-lock-privacy.md as github issues [on Andrey Logvinov - due 2016-09-15].

Andrew: I'll be looking at the issues that have been submitted and make proposals for ways forward

Toipc: TPAC

-> https://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/LisbonF2F2016#Agenda Proposed Agenda for TPAC F2F

Anssi: planned for 1.5 days since Monday afternoon has interesting CG meetings (bluetooth & webnfc)
... I've structured this with first a look at wide review feedback, starting with TAG feedback
... then we could get the other groups feedback, where having PING people would be particular useful

-> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-review-announce/2016Sep/0007.html RfC (public) of generic sensors & ambient light

Dom: have you looked at whether a polyfill of the current deviceorientation with the 3 new sensors?

anssi: not yet, sounds interesting; likewise for a geo

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Andrey to transfer https://github.com/w3c/ping/blob/master/wake-lock-privacy.md as github issues [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to find a PING person for joining us at TPAC for discussion on privacy [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to send transition request for FPWD of concrete sensors [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/09/08-dap-minutes.html#action01]
 

Summary of Resolutions

  1. Minutes from 25 Aug 2016 are approved,
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