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<scribe> scribe: allanj
sh: do proposed resolutions, then have folks vote on github
laura: CfC?
awk: no CfC in taskforce. too formal
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<shawn> https://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot
<shawn> here maybe https://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot#agenda
<shawn> zakim-rage
Proposal
User Need - Password: Users need to be able to see the entire password as text before it is submitted.
sh: don't want a new need, can't we put it somewhere else
verification of pw and number of characters is stressful, and time consuming
lc: there is a toolbar with a setting to show passwords
sh: can we squeeze it in somewhere?
<shawn> maybe http://w3c.github.io/low-vision-a11y-tf/requirements.html#seeing-all-interface-elements
sh: edits pending to that section, to be broadened
wd: very stressful,
sh: propose putting in 3.7.1
lc: +1
awk: adding pw visibility to 3.7.1....seems weird
wd: tentative +1
ja: either 3.7.1 or create a new need
awk: 3.3?
wd: perhaps operation, high stakes. WCAG forms with legal consequences
sh: if in 3.3 then will be a new need
awk: will be lots of discussion about disproportionate impact on COGA or LV. but lots of people have issues with pw
sh: agree, everybody has issues
with pw. not quite threshold.
... dots (masking) is the issue
RESOLUTION: Shawn to write password visibility addition to 3.7.1
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this is a rewording of 3.3.3 and new intro for 3.5.1
RESOLUTION: reword 3.3.3 and change intro for 3.5.1 per issue discussion
<scribe> ACTION: jim to write COGA about orthgraphy [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/02-lvtf-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-59 - Write coga about orthgraphy [on Jim Allan - due 2016-06-09].
wd: need vs success critera
sh: commenter - in German, all nouns are capitaized, authors should do it right
awk: english evolved. chances of enforcing "standard english"
close item 4
RESOLUTION: current wording is fine, not changing
close item 5
RESOLUTION: use shawn's comment
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open item 7
sh: are light sensitivity and
glare sensitivity different?
... is there a condition where glare is an issue but not
light
wd: cataracts, issues with ocular fluid
sh: do we change title of 2.4.2 Light sensitivity to include Glare also?
<shawn> http://w3c.github.io/low-vision-a11y-tf/requirements.html#light-sensitivity
<scribe> ACTION: shawn to write up bit on glare sensitivity to 2.4.2 with Jim (one or two sentences) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/02-lvtf-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-60 - Write up bit on glare sensitivity to 2.4.2 with jim (one or two sentences) [on Shawn Henry - due 2016-06-09].
wd: background images
sh: in same category of changing font size, background color, etc.
wd: yes, same category, but need to specify background images
sh: comment - visual clutter is
environmental factor. shawn - not so much
... but visual clutter may be a user need. do we have visual
clutter covered?
<scribe> ACTION: wayne to review document for adequacy of "visual clutter" coverage and verbiage [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/02-lvtf-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-61 - Review document for adequacy of "visual clutter" coverage and verbiage [on Wayne Dick - due 2016-06-09].
wd: may need something on tracking and scanning
sh: point 2 & 3
addressed.
... point 1, wording issue
... proposed wording "This section briefly introduces types of
visual impairment that impact web use, not including total
blindness: Visual acuity (clarity), Light sensitivity, Contrast
sensitivity, Field of vision, Color vision"
+1
changed "categories" in original to "types"
<laura> +1
RESOLUTION: change wording for intro in section 2.4
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wd: concerned about functional vision when operating the web
RESOLUTION: update document to reflect shawn's wording in the issue
close item 8
How about change the first sentence from:
Contrast sensitivity is the ability to distinguish bright and dim areas of images, for example, to discern text on a background.
to:
Contrast sensitivity is the ability to detect differences in brightness between targets and their backgrounds, for example, to discern text from its background.
wd: targets - poor word
shawn: objects, better
RESOLUTION: change to "Contrast sensitivity is the ability to detect differences in brightness between objects and their backgrounds, for example, to discern text from its background.
close item 10
awk: in item 10, point is not detect difference but to get the information
sh: medical testing vs functioning
awk: contrast sensitivity is the ability to detect difference in brightness in content
sh: are we talking about adjacent information. link in text (distinguished by color), need to be able to tell the difference just by color/brightness
lc: similar to pie charts (adjacent colors)
<AWK> ...to detect differences in content and interfaces, for example,...
ja: pie charts - add texture or other feature for block of color
sh: contrast sensitivity
difference in luminance that makes an object
distinguishable
... ability to detect difference in brightness.
<shawn> > Contrast sensitivity is the ability to detect differences in brightness, for example, to discern text from its background.
<laura> bye
RESOLUTION: 2.4.3 change wording "Contrast sensitivity is the ability to detect differences in brightness, for example, to discern text from its background."
trackbot, end meeting
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