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XForms Users Community Group Teleconference

13 Jan 2016

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
Steven, Nick, Erik, Alain, Philip
Regrets
None
Chair
Steven
Scribe
Steven

Contents


Action-2026 Erik Bruchez to Add secondsfromepoch function

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Jan/0003.html

Erik: Last time we clarified the namespaces for functions
... two namespaces, one for all functions, and one for only the XForms functions
... This function is one of the compatibility functions
... because of the clash with XPath 2
... We could have given them different names,
... If you use the XForms prefix, you can use the new and old names, to maximise the compatibility.
... On the one hand it maximises compatibility, but on the other it is a little bit complex

https://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/wiki/index.php?title=XPath_Expressions_Module#The_seconds-from-epoch.28.29_Function

Steven: Should we have one section or two?

Erik: Well the names are different but the functionality is the same

Steven: Couldn't we unravel this, to make it clear that the epoch version is the preferred?

Erik: Let me try and do it as two sections, explaining that the old one is only there for compatibility.

Steven: Let's look a it again next week then.

Erik: Sure

OpenDataKit XForms

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Jan/0002.html

Steven: I was lead to this from a tweet that Alain sent about OpenStreettMap
... it would be good to have a look at their additions, and evaluate them for possible (future) inclusion

Erik: I had a quick glance, I didn't see what's new.

Steven: I saw some stuff on <upload> and <repeat>. I'll summarise in an email.

Sections 1-3

https://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/wiki/XForms_2.0#About_the_XForms_Specification

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Jan/0007.html

Steven: So we can merge @object/@array and @type

Erik: I agree, and that's what I do!

Steven: And we can default to type="string"

Erik: Also agree

<scribe> ACTION: Steven merge @object @ array and @type in JSON, and make type="string" the default [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/01/13-forms-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2046 - Merge @object @ array and @type in json, and make type="string" the default [on Steven Pemberton - due 2016-01-20].

Section 4 beginning

"At the time of evaluation, an expression must be syntactically correct. In addition, the namespaces the expression references must be in scope and the functions and variables it references must be defined. If any of these conditions is not satisfied, an error is raised depending on the location of the expression: xforms-expression-error Event, xforms-binding-error Event, or xforms-action-error Event."

<ebruchez> brb

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2015Nov/0021

<ebruchez> back

Steven: So I have a question mark in my marked up version of the spec about this section, and I'm not sure what we agreed about this text

"an error is raised"

Erik: [Explains the text, that it is about static processing]

Steven: So there's nothing wrong with this paragraph?

Erik: It seems to be reasonable.

Steven: I'm happy with that, then I don't need to edit it.

Erik: Oh, this is the only place we use the phrase, use "an error event is dispatched"

Steven: Ah! Good.

Erik: We use the phrase in the XPath chapter as well

<ebruchez> duplicated in https://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/wiki/XPath_Expressions_Module#XPath_Expressions_in_XForms

Steven: Use the same wording there?

Erik: But we shouldn't have duplication of text

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to remove duplication of XForms section4 in XPath Module section3 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/01/13-forms-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2047 - Remove duplication of xforms section4 in xpath module section3 [on Steven Pemberton - due 2016-01-20].

AOB

Steven: I'm through today's agenda. Anything else?

[No]

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Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Steven merge @object @ array and @type in JSON, and make type="string" the default [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/01/13-forms-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Steven to remove duplication of XForms section4 in XPath Module section3 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/01/13-forms-minutes.html#action02]
 

Summary of Resolutions

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