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14:04:04 <trackbot> Meeting: XForms Users Community Group Teleconference
14:04:04 <trackbot> Date: 13 January 2016
14:04:20 <Steven> Chair: Steven
14:04:24 <Steven> Regrets: None
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14:04:40 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Jan/0006
14:04:49 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Jan/0006
14:07:09 <Steven> Topic: Action-2026 Erik Bruchez to Add secondsfromepoch function
14:07:09 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Jan/0003.html
14:08:12 <Steven> Erik: Last time we clarified the namespaces for functions
14:08:58 <Steven> ... two namespaces, one for all functions, and one for only the XForms functions
14:09:13 <Steven> ... This function is one of the compatibility functions
14:09:25 <Steven> ... because of the clash with XPath 2
14:10:38 <Steven> ... We could have given them different names,
14:11:29 <Steven> ... If you use the XForms prefix, you can use the new and old names, to maximise the compatibility.
14:12:22 <Steven> ... On the one hand it maximises compatibility, but on the other it is a little bit complex
14:13:21 <Steven> https://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/wiki/index.php?title=XPath_Expressions_Module#The_seconds-from-epoch.28.29_Function
14:15:46 <Steven> Steven: Should we have one section or two?
14:15:56 <Steven> Erik: Well the names are different but the functionality is the same
14:19:07 <Steven> Steven: Couldn't we unravel this, to make it clear that the epoch version is the preferred?
14:19:28 <Steven> Erik: Let me try and do it as two sections, explaining that the old one is only there for compatibility.
14:19:51 <Steven> Steven: Let's look a it again next week then.
14:19:54 <Steven> Erik: Sure
14:20:13 <Steven> Topic: OpenDataKit XForms
14:20:13 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Jan/0002.html
14:20:36 <Steven> Steven: I was lead to this from a tweet that Alain sent about OpenStreettMap
14:21:35 <Steven> ... it would be good to have a look at their additions, and evaluate them for possible (future) inclusion
14:22:24 <Steven> Erik: I had a quick glance, I didn't see what's new.
14:23:48 <Steven> Steven: I saw some stuff on <upload> and <repeat>. I'll summarise in an email.
14:24:08 <Steven> Topic: Sections 1-3
14:24:08 <Steven> https://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/wiki/XForms_2.0#About_the_XForms_Specification
14:24:49 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Jan/0007.html
14:26:32 <Steven> Steven: So we can merge @object/@array and @type
14:26:51 <Steven> Erik: I agree, and that's what I do!
14:26:51 <Steven> Steven: And we can default to type="string"
14:26:54 <Steven> Erik: Also agree
14:27:53 <Steven> ACTION: Steven merge @object @ array and @type in JSON, and make type="string" the default
14:27:53 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2046 - Merge @object @ array and @type in json, and make type="string" the default [on Steven Pemberton - due 2016-01-20].
14:29:40 <Steven> Topic: Section 4 beginning
14:29:42 <Steven> "At the time of evaluation, an expression must be syntactically correct. In addition, the namespaces the expression references must be in scope and the functions and variables it references must be defined. If any of these conditions is not satisfied, an error is raised depending on the location of the expression: xforms-expression-error Event, xforms-binding-error Event, or xforms-action-error Event."
14:30:01 <ebruchez> brb
14:30:12 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2015Nov/0021
14:31:12 <ebruchez> back
14:31:14 <Steven> Steven: So I have a question mark in my marked up version of the spec about this section, and I'm not sure what we agreed about this text
14:31:41 <Steven> "an error is raised"
14:34:53 <Steven> Erik: [Explains the text, that it is about static processing]
14:35:13 <Steven> Steven: So there's nothing wrong with this paragraph?
14:35:45 <Steven> Erik: It seems to be reasonable.
14:36:29 <Steven> Steven: I'm happy with that, then I don't need to edit it.
14:41:05 <Steven> Erik: Oh, this is the only place we use the phrase, use "an error event is dispatched"
14:41:11 <Steven> Steven: Ah! Good.
14:41:31 <Steven> Erik: We use the phrase in the XPath chapter as well
14:41:38 <ebruchez> duplicated in https://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/wiki/XPath_Expressions_Module#XPath_Expressions_in_XForms
14:41:53 <Steven> Steven: Use the same wording there?
14:42:03 <Steven> Erik: But we shouldn't have duplication of text
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14:45:39 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to remove duplication of XForms section4 in XPath Module section3
14:45:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2047 - Remove duplication of xforms section4 in xpath module section3 [on Steven Pemberton - due 2016-01-20].
14:46:13 <Steven> Topic: AOB
14:46:27 <Steven> Steven: I'm through today's agenda. ANything else?
14:46:29 <Steven> [No]
14:46:45 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
14:46:51 <Steven> s/AN/An/
14:47:20 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
14:47:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/01/13-forms-minutes.html Steven
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15:44:54 <Steven> Present: Steven, Nick, Erik, Alain, Philip
15:44:59 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
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