See also: IRC log
<scribe> scribe: liam
[note, request that people be vigilant about anyone unauthorized using the calls; there will be a new password for this call starting next week]
password will be given out only in IRC, and only using "/me" so not on the record.
JS: It's possible to get to MIT webex via SIP
directly if you're using ipv4, but not if using ipv6
You may need to turn reinvite off in your sip client
I'll send email.
Other items include work statement, decision policy, name APA + Web Platforms instead of PF and HTML, maybe other tweaks.
Also some discussion regarding joint documents similarly
e.g. there's one between ARIA and WP
JS: We need to hold up alt because of tweaks we're expecting related to extended descriptions- looking like aria-describedat will be repalced by HTML details & summary, but our requirements aren't yet met
The disambiguation between use of detail/summary for an image description vs another purpose needs to be firmed up, probably in December.
So there will be edits to the draft alt document, so premature to ask WCAG and EO to weigh in on it.
<MarkS> LQ: I've been following the describedat conversation closely. I will go through the alt doc and close as many issues as possible, like typos and these new details about summary/details
<MarkS> ...once we reach consensus
JS: once we get that consensus we'll review the text here.
<ShaneM> I have nothing new to report on this. and can't get my audio to work :/
[ShaneM not on the call]
[Cynthia not on the call]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/334 Send out note requestiong wider review (includes wcag and eo)
open
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/335 Start a cfc to publish maur as a note
<scribe> done
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/341 Shane re. footnotes, done
JS: want to refer to footnotes from multiple places in a document and to go back to the right place
and to be able to read footnotes without going through the document
ShaneM: the old access element
had support for this sort of use case
... based on roles.
This is no longer just accessibility, but a larger context. And every time we say HTML should be extended to cover notes.
And every time people push back.
Someone needs to enumerate requirements
<ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-access/
ShaneM: PF WG had responsibility for access element inherited from HTML 2 WG
JS: we took care of role &
forgot the other.
... Next week in the US is the time we're grateful for the fact
in the US we've welcomed so many immigrants... Thanksgiving...
so no call next week
Next call will be 3rd December. Look in IRC for the appropriate password at that time.
Adjourned