W3C

Arabic Layout Task Force Teleconference

03 Nov 2015

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Shervin, mostafa, Behnam, r12a, Najib, Waseem
Chair
Shervin
Scribe
Mostafa, Shervin

Contents


Status review of action items from previous meeting

<Shervin> http://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track/actions/open

<Shervin> close action-2

<trackbot> Closed action-2.

<Shervin> close action-3

<trackbot> Closed action-3.

<Shervin> close action-5

<trackbot> Closed action-5.

Mostafa: Najib has added Arabic translations for some of glossary items.

<Shervin> Najib, since you're not on the call, do you have anything to mention regarding glossary work you've done?

… and Sallar did the same for Persian.

<najib> yes

<najib> I add commas to separate more translations. Some terms might be composed of two or three words.

<najib> Some terms don't seem relevant "Bicameral"?

<najib> That's it

<Shervin> Thanks, Najib.

<Shervin> ScribeNick: Shervin

<najib> More translations to be added. Keep action 5 ?

<scribe> ScribeNick: Mostafa

Mostafa: Richard mentioned in the emails that we should use CLDR to populate the tables. I agree.

<r12a> public-alreq-admin list is for admin only, technical discussion belong on public-i18n-arabic list

Richard: GitHub issues hase a better discussions platform for this work.

Shervin: GitHub issues doesn’t have excellent support for attachments.

… I suggest to start drafting work on Google Doc and add a GitHub issue for dicussion.

… If you are prepared for a PR, make a PR.

… About the first draft, I’m not sure tables inside the document will work fine, becaue they can be very big.

<Shervin> close action-6

<trackbot> Closed action-6.

… I’m not sure what is the right approach for it, so I’ll see and get back to you about it next week.

Mostafa: These tables are supposed to go the end of the document in the appendix.

<Shervin> Najib, do you have any update for us regarding action number 7?

<najib> Yes. I sent an email with a proposed text.

<najib> http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/Font-and-Typographical-considerations.html

<najib> Just started.

<Shervin> Thank you, Najib. I check this off on the action list.

<najib> Suggest to continue discussion by mail.

<Shervin> Najib, we briefly looked over the draft you have for font and typo consideration. Do you mind if we change the action item you had for adding more content to that?

<najib> OK

Richard: Since the work on this issue is minimal, I recommend changing the action item’s title to “develop some more text for this section.”
... I just made that change to this action item #7 in the Tracker.

Shervin: I should put together an email to cover best practices for drafting.

<Shervin> ACTION: Shervin to write an email regarding best practices for drafting and draft-related discussions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-16 - Write an email regarding best practices for drafting and draft-related discussions [on Shervin Afshar - due 2015-11-10].

Richard: That can cover idea of GitHub issues and the right mailing list address to send drafts to.

<Shervin> ACTION: Shervin to convert Mostafa and Najib's emails to Github issues [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Convert mostafa and najib's emails to github issues [on Shervin Afshar - due 2015-11-10].

Richard: We should take Najib’s and Mostafa’s recent emails and turn them into issues.

Shervin: I can do that.

<Shervin> close action-8

<trackbot> Closed action-8.

Richard: We should have closed action item #8 last week.

<Shervin> close action-9

<trackbot> Closed action-9.

Richard: Action item #9 is now done. The GitHub repo’s preferences have been changed to notify the mailing list about changes to the repo and its issues.

<Shervin> close action-11

<trackbot> Closed action-11.

Shervin: Action #10 is still going.

Action #11 is covered in #10, so I close #11.

<trackbot> Error finding '#11'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track/users>.

Shervin: Still working on action item #12.

These topics mentioned in actoin item #12 (links sent by Richard in the last meeting) will be reviewed and added as topics.

<Shervin> Hi Behnam, we started at 7:15 today. Mostly processing action items so far.

<Shervin> close action-13

<trackbot> Closed action-13.

Shervin: Action #13 is done. I sent the links to the follks.

<r12a> ACTION: richard to check with systeam whether ellipsis can function like ... for minute taking [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action03]

<Shervin> http://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track/actions/open

<trackbot> Created ACTION-18 - Check with systeam whether ellipsis can function like ... for minute taking [on Richard Ishida - due 2015-11-10].

<Shervin> close action-1

<trackbot> Closed action-1.

<Shervin> close action-4

<trackbot> Closed action-4.

<r12a> Behnam, do you know Sarmad Hussain - he may also provide expertise on Urdu

Behnam: I followed action #4. We can close it now, because we don’t want them in the weekly, but I’m with touch with them.
... I did action #14 too.

<Shervin> close action-14

<trackbot> Closed action-14.

<Shervin> item- 7

Report on IUC39

<Behnam> http://www.unicodeconference.org/39/presentations/S6-T1-Esfahbod-Afshar.pdf

Shervin: I ask Behnam to discuss the report on the IUC 39, because he did most of the work.

Behnam: We got attention of some people from different languages and technical areas.
... Can we add these kind of documents (talking about the slides from IUC 39) as supplementary documents in the GitHub repo?

Richard: Yes. I don’t see why not.

<Shervin> ACTION: Behnam to create a folder under 'gh-pages' branch on Github repository for misc. documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-19 - Create a folder under 'gh-pages' branch on github repository for misc. documents [on Behnam Esfahbod - due 2015-11-10].

Richard: We can use gh-pages branch in the git repo so that the slide will be accessible from GitHub Pages though github.io domain name.

Behnam: We discussed various topics from our list of topic keywords.

Shervin: The intention was to make people aware of our work and intrigue their curiosity.
... I introduced the TF to different people in the meeting.
... One gentleman from IBM said they have someone working on Arabic layout issues. I’ll invite him to take a look at our work.
... Someone from Google showed interest too.
... Once we have more text in our document that can be used in attracting more attention.

<Shervin> item- 8

Recruiting Status

Shervin: I saw that Sallar is active on the document.
... Mostafa, do you know if he intents to attend the meetings?

Mostafa: I don’t know. I sent him an email, but got no response.
... I contacted Maryam Soft people about Quranic issues.
... They are interested in cooperating.

Behnam: We may not start working on the Qur’an issue yet.

Shervin: Let’s keep the connection. We might need their help later.
... Mostafa, do you have any updates about your other contacts?

Mostafa: Unfortunately, none of them gave any response.

<Shervin> item- 7

Richard: I talked with Vivliostyle, a Japanese company, working on the eBooks.
... I’ll contact them in case they can participate.
... I will also talked with German University of Technology in Oman when we do the Unicode tutorials, which are now confirmed for Feb 2016.

<Behnam> https://github.com/slang-group/iloominate

Behnam: This is an eBook project. We can use them or their work when get to topics about ebooks.
... I also found some interested folks on Twitter. They may join us for the next meeting.

<Behnam> Anas Qtiesh

Behnam: They are based in San Francisco.
... I’ll add them to the mailing list and they’ll introduce themselves, but wanted to say that Anas has a lot of experience with type-setting issues.

Status report on glossary work from the Arabic and Persian teams

<Shervin> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nSxYKQm_mKroCmxU4fyJ-g70Eo1_mF89yHZg8YNOuzc/edit?usp=sharing

Shervin: Sallar added some terms for Persian translations and Najib and Azzeddine addes some Arabic translations.
... We should follow a specific orthography here. Some terms are not written correctly.

<Shervin> Najib, we're talking about glossary work. Do you want to add anything to the conversation?

<najib> I m fine

<Shervin> Just a second, Najib.

Wassem: I want to stay in the loop with the glossary work and I’ll find a way to put more effort and contribute to the work when I’m less busy.

<najib> Some specific question like orthography could be done by email.

<r12a> or github issues ;-)

<najib> in a live fashion.

<najib> YES! github issues

<Shervin> najib, sure. I agree with that. Is there anything else you want to add?

<najib> Fine :-)

Drafting status and prioritization

Shervin: I’ll send an email to people to see how I can help to speed up the effort on the glossary.
... Regarding drafitng: Najib and Mostafa produced some text. I’ll move these to GitHub, so that we can continue to discuss and work on the text.

<Shervin> Najib, regarding the drafting that section you're working on, is there anything you would like to talk about?

<najib> Not for the moment.

Mostafa: Moving to GitHub is a great idea. Will enable us to discuss specific issues of each topic and section, like Richard’s note about mentioning that we are focusing on Arabic and Persian languages only at the moment.

<najib> right! May be a server problem.

<najib> I'll check that out with our system team

<r12a> Najib, https://github.com/w3c/alreq for the issues list

<najib> Thanks

<r12a> ACTION: Richard to set up new call information for next week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-20 - Set up new call information for next week [on Richard Ishida - due 2015-11-10].

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Behnam to create a folder under 'gh-pages' branch on Github repository for misc. documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: richard to check with systeam whether ellipsis can function like ... for minute taking [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Richard to set up new call information for next week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Shervin to convert Mostafa and Najib's emails to Github issues [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Shervin to write an email regarding best practices for drafting and draft-related discussions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action01]
 
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