W3C

Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference

30 Sep 2015

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
jtandy, Alejandro_Llaves, kerry, joshlieberman, phila, Chunming_Hu, Maik_Reichert, Jitao_Yang, billroberts, jonblower, Scott_Simmons, ahaller2, Payam, eparsons, AndreaPerego
Regrets
matt perry, linda, Bart van Leeuwen, Rachel Heaven, Simon Cox, Andreas Harth, Clemens Portele
Chair
kerry
Scribe
Alejandro_Llaves

Contents


<kerry> trackbot, start meeting

<trackbot> Meeting: Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference

<trackbot> Date: 30 September 2015

<phila> Chair: Kerry

<phila> NB. Two members of the CEO-LD project are observing the call today - Maik Riechert from the University of Reading (colleague of Jon Blower) and Chunming Hu (W3C)

<phila> scribe: Alejandro_Llaves

<kerry> scribe+ allejandro

<kerry> scribenick: alejandro

<kerry> scribe+ alejandro

approve minutes

<jtandy> +1 (also from phila )

<kerry> http://www.w3.org/2015/09/23-sdw-minutes.html

<kerry> +1

<joshlieberman> +1

<Alejandro_Llaves> +1

<billroberts> +1

RESOLUTION: approve minutes

<kerry> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call

Progress on identifiers in Data on the Web Best Practices WG http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#DataIdentifiers

<Alejandro_Llaves> Phil: Where are looking at the editors draft

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... last week there was a meeting in Sao Paulo

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... It is difficult to set the scope of a BP document

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... The group agreed on what URIs are

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... The document includes various assumptions about how a URI is defined. Always subject to change

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... Rather than reinventing the wheel, we used some relevant documents from the Web, with examples.

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... Phil thinks this can be useful for the group.

<Alejandro_Llaves> joshlieberman: One thing I would like to see is a clear distinction between an identifier and a locator, because the needs are not the same in both cases.

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... Question to Phil about granularity

<Alejandro_Llaves> phila: If I have a dataset about things, I want URIs to identify the dataset.

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... I don't think there is much distinction between an identifier and a locator.

<Alejandro_Llaves> joshlieberman: An identifier doesn't need to have the locator structure. Often, a locator needs a certain navigation pattern, that an identifier does not need.

<joshlieberman> +1 Identifiers can and should be recognizable even if locators should be treated as opaque for navigation.

<Alejandro_Llaves> eparsons: URIs can be plain identifiers, but there is an added value in designing good well-structured URIs

<Alejandro_Llaves> phila: Agree!

<kerry> +1 to jon's comment

<Alejandro_Llaves> jonblower: We need to separate the idea of human readibility from client readibility.

<joshlieberman> Could those not speaking please mute. Thanks!

<billroberts> http://ukgovld.github.io/ukgovldwg/recommendations/uri-patterns.html

<Alejandro_Llaves> billroberts: In Data on the Web draft there was an update about URI patterns

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... I don't know what is the status of the document, but it worths a read.

<Alejandro_Llaves> phila: I did not link to that document in the draft because it seems it is not finished, from the github repo.

Report on CEO-LD meeting http://www.w3.org/2015/ceo-ld/wiki/London_Kick_Off_meeting

<jtandy> (I'm happy that the DWBP identifier practices apply to SDW)

<Alejandro_Llaves> phila: We met yesterday and this morning.

<phila> https://www.w3.org/2015/ceo-ld/wiki/London_Kick_Off_meeting

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... The meeting went well.

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... The goal of this group is to foster collaboration between UK and China.

<Alejandro_Llaves> We talked about similar things that Jeremy was pointing in his email (?)

<Alejandro_Llaves> phila: We talked about satellite image, i.e. coverage.

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... We talked about how to describe coverage, which does not mean this is not solved.

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... Another topic was Identifiers: how you refer to the different levels of granularity related to access.

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... We discussed about formats, e.g. CSV on the Web, DataCube... How webby are they?

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... The geotemporal dimension of the different formats we looked at seems to be 2D

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... Some issues were identified, that will be solved in the near future. Some of the people attending will be in Sapporo.

<Alejandro_Llaves> Sorry, I don't know who is talking...

<Alejandro_Llaves> thanks

<Alejandro_Llaves> MaikRiechert: GeoDCAT could be a good testbed for our project MELODIES

<Alejandro_Llaves> jtandy: There are some issues important to coverage data that need to be discussed first in the SDW group first

<Alejandro_Llaves> eparsons: Is the output of the CEO-LD group publish-able as part of the SDW BP document?

<Alejandro_Llaves> phila: The CEO-LD can offer advise, but the SDW group should decide what to publish.

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... Citizen science and gamification could be the way of advance in the CEO-LD group

Review outstanding issues and actions (NB: please all catch up!)

<kerry> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/

<phila> action-79?

<trackbot> action-79 -- Jeremy Tandy to Create thread for each linking theme -- due 2015-09-30 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/79

<phila> action-78?

<trackbot> action-78 -- Jon Blower to Provide text around value add of following the bps -- due 2015-09-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/78

<Alejandro_Llaves> jonblower: I need to catch on my action

<phila> action-75?

<trackbot> action-75 -- Joshua Lieberman to Ask tesbed email list to proide pointers to content we should knpow -- due 2015-09-16 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/75

<Alejandro_Llaves> joshlieberman: I need to catch on my action

<phila> action-72?

<trackbot> action-72 -- Ed Parsons to Create appropriate wiki page -- due 2015-09-16 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/72

<phila> close action-72

<trackbot> Closed action-72.

<phila> close action-71

<trackbot> Closed action-71.

<phila> close action-63

<trackbot> Closed action-63.

<Alejandro_Llaves> phila: I could not meet her yet, but hopefully this happens soon. - Related to Phil's action. (which one?)

<phila> action-60?

<trackbot> action-60 -- Kerry Taylor to Follow up with svg -- due 2015-08-12 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/60

<kerry> Reminder Sapporo meeting starts 26 October: https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings#Sapporo

<Alejandro_Llaves> kerry: The accommodation arrangements should be done ASAP. We will discuss the agenda on the next meeting.

<kerry> The 7 discussion threads of best practice linking: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2015Sep/0044.html

<Alejandro_Llaves> jtandy: Thanks to the contributors!

<Alejandro_Llaves> jtandy: As editors, we need the group feedback and comments.

<phila> crickets...

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... Are there any questions or clarifications that we can discuss now?

<Alejandro_Llaves> <tumbleweed>

<Alejandro_Llaves> jtandy: Don't be shy about replying to the different email threads I sent around, because this will be the basic input for the document.

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... Only 3 weeks away to TPAC, so please put your content in.

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... Topics being discussed:

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... - One identifier to several spatial objects

<Alejandro_Llaves> ... - There has been also some discussion on the linking aspect of spatial data.

<Alejandro_Llaves> kerry: When do you want the comments by?

<Alejandro_Llaves> jtandy: Max. by mid October

<Alejandro_Llaves> kerry: In Sapporo we could look at the relation between the present content and the Requirements document.

<Alejandro_Llaves> jtandy: Agree!

<Alejandro_Llaves> Yes, I will!

<Alejandro_Llaves> jtandy: Task - Map reqs to the BP themes.

<Alejandro_Llaves> kerry: Also, take into account open issues on the track.

<kerry> actions: alejandro to map use cases to bp themes

<Alejandro_Llaves> Ok, no prob!

<kerry> ACTION: kerry to map use cases to bp themes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/09/30-sdw-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-81 - Map use cases to bp themes [on Kerry Taylor - due 2015-10-07].

<Zakim> phila, you wanted to talk about themes

<Alejandro_Llaves> phila: This idea of "themes" arose during a meeting last week, e.g. discoverability, etc. Each best practice in our document will have one or more icons describing what the theme is about.

<kerry> +1

<Alejandro_Llaves> jtandy: Good idea

<Alejandro_Llaves> kerry: Closing the meeting...

<eparsons> Bye !

<Alejandro_Llaves> thanks, bye!

<chunming> thank you all. bye

<Payam> thanks, bye

<kerry> bye!

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: kerry to map use cases to bp themes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/09/30-sdw-minutes.html#action01]
 

Summary of Resolutions

  1. approve minutes
[End of minutes]