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<Vivienne> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2013/user-modeling/note/ED-UM4A
Vivienne and mark discuss status of User Modelling. Mostly editorial work.
dsloan: suggest query editors of each of report
to get status of where the work stands. What is needed to reach completion,
required effort, level of commitment.
... Text Customization report is in Wiki format, not the final document
format. Note would add section to cover areas not addressed in the symposium
papers. Not in a position to provide estimate, yet.
vivienne: brief summary and highlighting of gaps where research is needed.
dsloan: goal is not an exhaustive lit review
sharper: two types of editing: those who have not completed editing, and those who have had multiple drafts... felt they conform, but feel goal posts have changed. Metrics authors feel it is out of date and not worth publishing at this point.
<Zakim> shadi, you wanted to speak about expected criteria and metrics note
shadi: agree with Simon. Never made the goal
posts clear, such as quality, writing style. Should work on criteria as to what
is expected. What should be in the notes.
... Disagree with Simon on the metrics . Actually important work on defining
quality criteria for metrics. Not provided anywhere else, and report is being
referenced in some EU work. Would like to see it finished sooner rather than
later.
<sloandr> Do we have a formal record of each unpublished Note, and the editors? i.e. a quantification of the issue we're dealing with?
vivienne: Most recent symposium on Wayfinding awaiting work. Recommend that we use the simplified note model for this one. Summary of what was discussed.
mhakkinen: How do we reconcile the views Metrics note?
shadi: have a clear write up on the specific
issues and propose edits to resolve the issues to the group. We can then
finalize.
... on the Easy to Read note, the comments are on the language/editorial. Not
controversial. Overly complex language. Editors are not able to take it
further. Comes back to the issue, what is it we expect for the note. Highlights
a need for guidelines for writing style.
... regarding metrics, a proposal to the group, via survey.
vivienne: action then to take the proposal to the group.
<sharper> +1
+1
<sloandr> +1
<Vivienne> +1
<shadi> +1
<klaus> +1
shadi: a survey ready for next meeting. with discussion following week.
+1
<shadi> [prepare survey for launching on 20 may]
mhakkinen: vivienne and mark can prepare disucssion of user modelling editorial changes for next meeting.
vivienne: progress on two notes will be positive. Asks David about text customization. Can progress be made in a few weeks?
dsloan: work on achievable deliverable, and will share a status update in two weeks time.
<klaus> sorry, my mic has problems. only wanted to say that I am happy to go on with the e2r report based on recommendations and with help on language coming in. Have to leave, sorry.
mhakkinen: no meeting next week due to W4A