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[Ashock is going over the agenda]
[people discussion lunch options]
[introductions]
[Arnaud going over the last 2 years of LDP]
[Arnaud is going over LD paging]
Arnaud: the LD paging will most likely be published as a note
[Arnaud is going over LD Patch history]
Arnaud: LD Patch’s future is brighter…and we hope it will reach REC soon (we meet the exit criteria)
[Arnaud talking about the wishlist]
Arnaud: so we’re here today to answer the big question: what do we do next?
…the WG has slown down, we’ve also lost a few members recently
…we can try to recharter the WG right away, but what do we need for that?
…W3C wants to see a draft charter and to see who is interested
…we can also do nothing, meaning that the WG will close in a few months
…Sandro pushed for the idea that we have a good basis, and we should experiment with what we have now
…people agreed that we should wait a bit, though we may lose momentum
…W3C management also has some constraints
…so the bar is quite high if we want to recharter
[Ashock proposes an around the table session]
[Ashok asking who wants to speak today]
3-4 people rised their hands
oshani: I can go first
[Oshani is presenting how Oracle uses LDP internally]
gkellogg_: there was some discussions in the Hydra group about paging
…not knowing a lot about LDP, the group prefers using HTTP headers instead of using URI queries
[MiguelAraCo presenting Carbon LDP]
Please note that today’s presentations (pdf) are also available on the mailing list
<oshani> Sent my presentation to public-ldp@w3
[Andrew talking a bit about Fedora 4]
<gkellogg> davidwood’s position paper: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp/2015Apr/0017.html
<gkellogg> davidwood: looks like you’re recommending including a reference to the VoID description of the dataset with each response, seems like a good idea.
<gkellogg> The HydraAPI takes a similar position on reference the apiDocumentation endpoint with a Link header.
<betehess> http://io.pellucid.com/blog/exposing-resources-in-datomic-using-linked-data
<betehess> http://io.pellucid.com/blog/exposing-resources-in-datomic-using-linked-data
<gkellogg> Link and Unlink HTTP method proposal: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-snell-link-method-01
[ betehess now preseting ]
[ Arnaud presenting next ]
[ Arnaud discussing the wishlist: https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/LDPNext ]
<Arnaud> https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/LDPNext2015_Charter
<Arnaud> https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/LDPNext
<Arnaud> http://open-services.net
[ Ashok about to present davidwood’s paper ]
<azaroth> (link to davidwood's paper?)
<bshambaugh> yes
[ link to davidwood’s paper: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp/2015Apr/att-0017/3_Round_Stones_LDP-Next_Position_Paper_20150421.pdf ]
<azaroth> Thank you!
<bshambaugh> thanks
<gkellogg> VoID: http://www.w3.org/TR/void/
[ bshambaugh presenting next ]
<azaroth> Queuing up URLs for my talk:
<azaroth> http://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-model/
<azaroth> http://w3c.github.io/web-annotation/protocol/wd/
<gkellogg> And for signatures/normalization:
<gkellogg> http://json-ld.org/spec/latest/rdf-dataset-normalization/
<gkellogg> https://web-payments.org/specs/source/ld-signatures/
[ azaroth presenting next ]
<Arnaud> http://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-model/
<Arnaud> http://w3c.github.io/web-annotation/protocol/wd/
<brent> Gregg: Provenance is here: http://bshambaugh.org/eispp/ch_1_2_OPM/OPM_transcript.txt
<gkellogg> RDF Dataset Normalization:
<gkellogg> http://json-ld.org/spec/latest/rdf-dataset-normalization/
<gkellogg> LD Signatures: https://web-payments.org/specs/source/ld-signatures/
<Arnaud> https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/LDPNext2015_Charter
<gkellogg> VoID use cases: http://semanticweb.org/wiki/VoID
<Arnaud> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/NOTE-ldp-acr-20140916/
<betehess> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/NOTE-ldp-acr-20140916/
<gkellogg> Shortlist:
<Ashok> Points for LDP Next
<gkellogg> 1. Extensibility & Discovery
<Ashok> 1. Extensibility and Discovery
<gkellogg> 2. Inlining on Get
<gkellogg> 3. Query...
<Ashok> 2. Inlining on GET
<gkellogg> 4. Client-based paging
<gkellogg> 5. Access Controll usage policies
<Ashok> Also, review LDP 1.0 in view of interoperability analysis of existing implementations
<Ashok> Re. 5 ... start with the LDP Wiki Access Control note
<betehess> 3.1 SPARQL on LDP
<betehess> 3.2 resource-centric
<betehess> 3.3 RDFSource-scoped
<betehess> 3.4 paging
<Ashok> trackbot, ACTION: deiu update LDPNext charter and announce on mailing list
<betehess> ACTION: deiu to update LDPNext and announce it to the mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/21-ldp-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-161 - Update ldpnext and announce it to the mailing list [on Andrei Sambra - due 2015-04-28].
<azaroth> ACTION: azaroth to send implementation comparison to public list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/21-ldp-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-162 - Send implementation comparison to public list [on Robert Sanderson - due 2015-04-28].
<betehess> adjourned
<Ashok> rrsagaent, draft minutes
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