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17:06:28 <deiu> remember to disable your video too btw
17:06:36 <deiu> scribenick: deiu
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17:06:53 <deiu> [Ashock is going over the agenda]
17:07:09 <deiu> [people discussion lunch options]
17:07:24 <deiu> [introductions]
17:08:49 <deiu> [Arnaud going over the last 2 years of LDP]
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17:12:25 <deiu> [Arnaud is going over LD paging]
17:13:06 <deiu> Arnaud: the LD paging will most likely be published as a note
17:13:32 <deiu> [Arnaud is going over LD Patch history]
17:15:13 <deiu> Arnaud: LD Patch’s future is brighter…and we hope it will reach REC soon (we meet the exit criteria)
17:16:41 <deiu> [Arnaud talking about the wishlist]
17:18:09 <deiu> Arnaud: so we’re here today to answer the big question: what do we do next?
17:18:30 <deiu> …the WG has slown down, we’ve also lost a few members recently
17:18:56 <deiu> …we can try to recharter the WG right away, but what do we need for that?
17:19:10 <deiu> …W3C wants to see a draft charter and to see who is interested
17:19:45 <deiu> …we can also do nothing, meaning that the WG will close in a few months
17:20:25 <deiu> …Sandro pushed for the idea that we have a good basis, and we should experiment with what we have now
17:20:48 <deiu> …people agreed that we should wait a bit, though we may lose momentum
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17:21:34 <deiu> …W3C management also has some constraints
17:21:43 <deiu> …so the bar is quite high if we want to recharter
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17:22:11 <deiu> [Ashock proposes an around the table session]
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17:32:46 <deiu> [Ashok asking who wants to speak today]
17:32:58 <deiu> 3-4 people rised their hands
17:33:04 <deiu> oshani: I can go first
17:34:32 <deiu> [Oshani is presenting how Oracle uses LDP internally]
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18:07:40 <deiu> gkellogg_: there was some discussions in the Hydra group about paging
18:08:50 <deiu> …not knowing a lot about LDP, the group prefers using HTTP headers instead of using URI queries
18:10:15 <deiu> [MiguelAraCo presenting Carbon LDP]
18:12:20 <deiu> Please note that today’s presentations (pdf) are also available on the mailing list
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18:22:14 <oshani> Sent my presentation to public-ldp@w3
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18:49:47 <deiu> [Andrew talking a bit about Fedora 4]
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19:34:16 <gkellogg> davidwood’s position paper: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp/2015Apr/0017.html
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19:36:30 <gkellogg> davidwood: looks like you’re recommending including a reference to the VoID description of the dataset with each response, seems like a good idea.
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19:36:55 <gkellogg> The HydraAPI takes a similar position on reference the apiDocumentation endpoint with a Link header.
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19:53:51 <betehess> http://io.pellucid.com/blog/exposing-resources-in-datomic-using-linked-data
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19:55:03 <betehess> http://io.pellucid.com/blog/exposing-resources-in-datomic-using-linked-data
19:55:10 <gkellogg> Link and Unlink HTTP method proposal: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-snell-link-method-01
19:56:54 <deiu> [ betehess now preseting ]
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20:09:14 <deiu> [ Arnaud presenting next ]
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20:28:59 <deiu> [ Arnaud discussing the wishlist: https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/LDPNext ]
20:36:34 <Arnaud> https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/LDPNext2015_Charter
20:36:45 <Arnaud> https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/LDPNext
20:36:51 <Arnaud> http://open-services.net
20:36:52 <deiu> [ Ashok about to present davidwood’s paper ]
20:39:12 <azaroth> (link to davidwood's paper?)
20:39:32 <bshambaugh> yes
20:41:01 <deiu> [ link to davidwood’s paper: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp/2015Apr/att-0017/3_Round_Stones_LDP-Next_Position_Paper_20150421.pdf ]
20:41:06 <azaroth> Thank you!
20:41:07 <bshambaugh> thanks
20:42:48 <gkellogg> VoID: http://www.w3.org/TR/void/
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20:57:57 <deiu> [ bshambaugh presenting next ]
21:09:38 <azaroth> Queuing up URLs for my talk:
21:09:41 <azaroth> http://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-model/
21:09:50 <azaroth> http://w3c.github.io/web-annotation/protocol/wd/
21:12:53 <gkellogg> And for signatures/normalization:
21:12:57 <gkellogg> http://json-ld.org/spec/latest/rdf-dataset-normalization/
21:13:02 <gkellogg> https://web-payments.org/specs/source/ld-signatures/
21:15:29 <deiu> [ azaroth presenting next ]
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21:23:57 <Arnaud> http://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-model/
21:24:04 <Arnaud> http://w3c.github.io/web-annotation/protocol/wd/
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21:30:47 <brent> Gregg: Provenance is here: http://bshambaugh.org/eispp/ch_1_2_OPM/OPM_transcript.txt
21:30:55 <gkellogg> RDF Dataset Normalization:
21:30:56 <gkellogg> http://json-ld.org/spec/latest/rdf-dataset-normalization/
21:31:06 <gkellogg> LD Signatures: https://web-payments.org/specs/source/ld-signatures/
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21:33:10 <tbdinesh> present +TB_Dinesh
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22:07:57 <Arnaud> https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/LDPNext2015_Charter
22:14:12 <gkellogg> VoID use cases: http://semanticweb.org/wiki/VoID
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23:14:11 <Arnaud> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/NOTE-ldp-acr-20140916/
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23:16:25 <betehess> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/NOTE-ldp-acr-20140916/
23:23:07 <gkellogg> Shortlist:
23:23:09 <Ashok> Points for LDP Next
23:23:16 <gkellogg> 1. Extensibility & Discovery
23:23:24 <Ashok> 1. Extensibility and Discovery
23:23:28 <gkellogg> 2. Inlining on Get
23:23:33 <gkellogg> 3. Query...
23:23:35 <Ashok> 2. Inlining on GET
23:23:38 <gkellogg> 4. Client-based paging
23:23:56 <gkellogg> 5. Access Controll usage policies
23:25:13 <Ashok> Also, review LDP 1.0 in view of interoperability analysis of existing implementations
23:26:03 <Ashok> Re. 5 ... start with the LDP Wiki Access Control note
23:26:12 <betehess> 3.1 SPARQL on LDP
23:26:19 <betehess> 3.2 resource-centric
23:26:28 <betehess> 3.3 RDFSource-scoped
23:26:47 <betehess> 3.4 paging
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23:35:27 <Ashok> trackbot, ACTION: deiu update LDPNext charter and announce on mailing list
23:35:28 <betehess> ACTION: deiu to update LDPNext and announce it to the mailing list
23:35:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-161 - Update ldpnext and announce it to the mailing list [on Andrei Sambra - due 2015-04-28].
23:35:40 <azaroth> ACTION: azaroth to send implementation comparison to public list
23:35:40 <trackbot> Created ACTION-162 - Send implementation comparison to public list [on Robert Sanderson - due 2015-04-28].
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23:36:03 <betehess> adjourned
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