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<inserted> Scribe: lloyd
<inserted> Scribe: dbooth
<trackbot_> Meeting: Semantic Web Health Care and Life Sciences Interest Group Teleconference
<trackbot_> Date: 14 April 2015
<trackbot> Date: 14 April 2015
<Marc_Twagirumukiza> having problems with phone
http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20150407
RESOLUTION: Minutes of April 7 approved!
http://www.w3.org/2015/04/08-hcls-minutes.html
<Lloyd> Tomorrow's agenda: approach to ordering
http://www.hl7.org/events/wgm052015/
http://hl7-fhir.github.io/rdf.html
lloyd: Grahame has been working to produce RDF page and specification. This group needs to review.
tony: Grahame say my slides and
asked me to compare with the above page.
... What's the process for editing this page? What's the
process for this subgroup?
lloyd: The page is in svn. It can be edited, or feedback can be sent to the ITS list and someone else can edit it.
tony: How to get that page finalized and agree on?
lloyd: Want to focus on open
issues. One is ordering.
... several of us have committer privileges already, and we can
add others. Or this group can make requests and others can make
them.
<Marc_Twagirumukiza> Maybe we have to add only those contributing or wishing contributing
lloyd: if you want to be a committer, let me know.
<Marc_Twagirumukiza> +1
lloyd: Send me desired changes.
David: I'd like to be a committer.
<Lloyd> Marc, if you're asking for commit privileges, send me an email
lloyd: Send me email.
<Marc_Twagirumukiza> Great! I will contact you if I have something relevant there
David: Should we switch to using the HL7 github change process for our issues?
lloyd: We usually wait until later for that.
tony: What is the review and approval process?
paul: It would be approved by
this group, then back to ITS for formal review. But we're
comfortable that we're working sufficiently closely to push
materials out.
... We're in draft until we hit the edge of the ballot.
lloyd: This page will need to be
draft for DSTU 2, because it's introduced after the ballot is
open.
... We'll need to decide on publication inclusion in July as
draft, and should make it as robust as possible.
tony: That would be a good target for us.
lloyd: Should aim to have things relatively complete by end of Paris meeting.
claude: will Grahame take care of the ont generation tooling?
lloyd: yes
http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Examples_For_Driving_FHIR_Ontology_Development
<Marc_Twagirumukiza> The general comment is to make sure that we use the real FHIR resources/profiles (valid for FHIR)
tony: I'm working on #6, story 2: Clinical / AllergyIntolerance: to Medication
http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=File:Patient_Safety_Ontology_and_Instances.pdf
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(tony goes through his slides: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=File:Patient_Safety_Ontology_and_Instances.pdf )
tony: Top Quadrant did some XSD to OWL translations
slide 5
eric: Why owl:maxQualifiedCardinality instead of owl:maxCardinality?
tony: not sure. maybe it's wrong.
:)
... I'm generating it from protege
eric: That's a peculiarity of the Manchester syntax. You just need two restrictions to avoid it.
tony: I'm using fully qualified FHIR names.
slide 7
<Lloyd> Lloyd signing off
david: why entered-in-error is a class?
tony: debate about this. will discuss.
slide 8
tony: starting with fhir:value "confirmed", the confirmed class is inferred.
slide 9
tony: same idea in coding
instance.
... I think grahame's approach uses puns.
eric: He was intending to rename them to be distinct -- either instance or class.
david: Would be great to show these approaches side by side.
<scribe> ACTION: Tony to show the same example in both his style and Grahame's side-by-side [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/14-hcls-minutes.html#action01]
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slkide 11
tony: This is valueset binding in a profile
slide 12
eric: Differences from Grahame's approach?
tony: 1. datatypes 2. binding to local and remote terminologies. 3. How to handle references and resolve them.
<ericP> http://90.4.193.244/2015/ShExpressivity
<ericP> http://www.w3.org/2013/12/FDA-TA/
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