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<trackbot> Date: 07 April 2015
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<dbooth> http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20150331
<dbooth> RESOLVED: Mar 31 minutes approved
<dbooth> http://www.w3.org/2015/04/01-hcls-minutes.html
Eric: topics: ordering, equivalence vs same spelling
3rd item rdf syntax
ordering: FHIR JSON to FHIR RDF and back again: if n addresses order must be preserved
schema tells you what to serialize
sequence and there are alternatives to the owl sequence, there are ways to do this with annotations
annotations can be done in the instance as well
sequence would always have to have the ordering in it
issue: What RDF mechanism to use for ordering, will be an upcoming decision
<trackbot> Created ISSUE-6 - What rdf mechanism to use for ordering, will be an upcoming decision. Please complete additional details at <http://www.w3.org/2014/HCLS/track/issues/6/edit>.
If we were to name 2 properties: lab observation date and a lab creation date, what fraction of properties on a base class like resource are inherited: creation date always the same, date has multiple meanings
def for FHIR resources doesn't capture whether creation date inherits from a base resource
<dbooth> We decided to use fully qualified FHIR names for RDF properties
Decision on using Turtle for our examples
Tony: Concerns on tooling (with use or turtle)
*of
David: Turtle will be used for
FHIR examples
... Upcoming HL7 Meeting in Paris
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David: Are there any particular items to be discussed? Bring up issues or send email to the list
<dbooth> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KPP5hiXCHsDovEd_68JjTHzlPEP3sLDzzMV6bzEt-Ok/edit
<dbooth> QUESTION: Does FHIR require stable URIs?
David: Still interested in receiving comments on this document
There is a stable URI defied for stucuture definition, value sets and conformance
for other instances there is no expectation that there will be a stabe URI
Is there anything in the FHIR spec that places reqs on the stability of a URI?
Llyod: no req that there be a doc
at the end of it, practice that it resolve the the structure
def instance
... not sure if this is spelled out as guidance in the spec
David: This should be in the spec
Llyoyd: not talking about the resource id (which changes)
There is no requirement to make it dereferencable, David would like this to be a "should"
Claude: used profile def to buid
the ontology but not the urls
... pointing to whatever was the latest doc in the [?]
repository
<dbooth> Proposal: We suggest to the FIHR group that a profile URI *should* be dereferenceable to an authoritative definition of to make it explicit in the FHIR spec that profile.
<Marc_Twagirumukiza> +1
<dbooth> [[ Proposal: We suggest to the FIHR group to make it explicit in the FHIR spec tha a profile URI *should* be dereferenceable to an authoritative definition of that profile. ]]
<dbooth> ACTION: dbooth to do that [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/07-hcls-minutes.html#action01]
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Review of PSS project scope
Tony: Is tooling part of the scope?
what tools read the profile and build the ontology?
Llyod: There should be specification and tooling
tooling added to 1b in Project Scope
David: clarification, #1: scraping FHIR defs to produce the ontology that is needed (agreement)
#1 is tooling used to produced the onotlogies, seperate from implementation in #2
added instance tooling as 2a in project scope
Llyod: ontology can deal with transformations of resources as well as other instances
Review of PSS Project Need (3.b.)
added Linked Data to last paragraph
Review of 3.c.Success Criteria
paragraph 1: change FHIR representation to FHIR object representations
<dbooth> ADJOURNED
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