Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference

<eparsons> trackbot, start meeting

<trackbot> Date: 04 March 2015

lewismc

<phila> ed: Begins the meeting and asks for a scribe

<phila> scribe: lewismc

<eparsons> http://www.w3.org/2015/02/25-sdw-minutes

PROPOSE: Approve last weeks minutes

<aharth> +1

<phila> phila: Apologises for last week's rubbish minutes. RRSAgent is running this week

<billroberts> +1

<eparsons> +1

<ChrisLittle> zakim aagg is me

<phila> +1

<MattPerry> +1

<JoshLieberman> +1

<KJanowicz> +1

<Linda_> I dont see my name in the Present list

<ChrisLittle> +1

RESOLVE: Last weeks minutes APPROVED

<phila> I'll add it Linda

<Linda_> thx phila

OGC Patent Call determines that these calls go ahead

eparsons: new people on the call

Alex_Coley: introducing himself on the call
... contributed very much towards this working group

lewismc: introduce himself on the call

<KarlG_> 1.650.724.aahh is KarlG_

Issues around work to be done at f2f

eparsons: next item, spend remainder of call on the issues for F2F in Barcelona
... main order of activities to go through use cases, package them and group then in similar areas
... common requirements for best practicies in terms of technology scope
... looking at those technologies
... Yolanda has set out an agenda for gathering use cases

<phila> Yolanda's e-mail

<YolandaGil> The organization of use cases for the W3C Provenance XG is described in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2015Mar/0005.html

YolandaGil: proposed an agenda for the Provenance Incubator Group
... how could we describe or highlight another use case and manage the contributions?
... so setting out a plan as described in the W3C Provenance XG document and the email sent to the list the strategy for accepting contributions and also managing contributions
... use cases are important to communicate
... create 3 sythensizing scenarios (flagship) ideas
... 1) general web scenario , 2) science, 3) contracts and industry setting
... has a team of curators who worked with the authors of the use cases
... highlight what the editors are after
... navigate through use cases to see what they highligh
... use curation as a mechanism for arriving at the threee flagship scenarios... this enables the group to work more effectively.

eparsons: useful input and overlapping with the scoping questions
... how long did the curation process take?

YolandaGil: about 2 or 3 months total
... this work can be combined with other work
... began to do other tasks in parallel

eparsons: opening them up for questions
... useful for gathering and managing use cases

ChrisLittle: when you were curating use cases, was it easy to extract underlying structure or was it more intensive task?

YolandaGil: that was something that was constructed as a group
... once you abstract away from the use case into the flagship scenarios they become the groups scenarios as oppose to personal use cases

lewismc: is there a template for gathering use cases?

YolandaGil: yes, the template has dimensions which represent the spatial domain
... representation was something the use cases describe, but also where the data should be stored
... 3rd topic was how a user interprets data
... maybe some template of a similar nature would be useful for this WG

eparsons: scoping mechanism is a good filter for use cases
... template to identify common characteristics from across use cases
... trial and error approach, we can iterate until we find a good fit

<eparsons> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/F2f_Barcelona

Agenda for F2F

eparsons: a number of individuals have put together what the agenda should look like
... think that the best manner to approach is to split in to groups then take one requirement for each group
... spend most of the day doing that with break for 1pm for lunch
... after lunch come together to derive common characteristics
... towards end of day run lightning talks for technologies overview
... hard stop at 5:30PM
... would appreciate some input on how to define subgroups
... opening up to questions and comments for the agenda?

KarlG_: noticed that OWL Time ontology is not an existing technology

eparsons: no one has come forward to present on the topic, therefore it has not been included

<phila> Are you volunteering KarlG_ ?

KarlG_: associated question, many technology incl, GeoJSON have deficiencies which may make their way into discussion

eparsons: lightning talks act to get everyone on to the same page.

<KJanowicz> IMHO the talks are just 'selected topics' not an overview about all details and all relevant technologies

eparsons: will drill into more detail further down the line

KarlG_: will not be able to make it so cannot commit to a presentation

Linda_: ends at 5:30PM... is that not 6:30PM?

eparsons: No

Linda_: topic discussed at the end, thought that the idea was to look into general technologies which fit into the best practicies as oppose to other technologies outside of that immediate scope

eparsons: lightning talks are only meant to getting everyone on the same page, they do not represent an exclusive list
... F2F meeting organizers are going to make use of GoToMeeting software for remote participants to participate as fully as possible

<JoshLieberman> When you click on a GTM meeting link, it will download the app at the time.

<phila> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/F2f_Barcelona#Tuesday_Evening_meetup

phila: minor point regarding bottom of agenda page, Kerry will be finding a place where everyone can meet up
... location will be on the wiki shortly

<ChrisLittle> +1

<AndreaPerego> +1

<JoshLieberman> The link to the go to meeting session for the f2f is already reserved: https://www4.gotomeeting.com/join/353923093

eparsons: F2F next week will be no telecon, week after will be review of F2F

phila: suggests reading long list of use cases prior to F2F
... please check for day light savings time
... U.S. is changing DST, so please keep an eye

billroberts: not going to be able to join the F2F,
... is it possible to submit some 'homework'

eparsons: please put all on to the public list
... template ideas, general groupings, etc
... all to the public list
... these can then be taken to the F2F

ChrisLittle: was trying quite hard to get a health use case
... possibly produce a health use case

<phila> I added a medical use case this eve on behalf of Erich Bremer who has joined the group

<JoshLieberman> There are demographic use cases with same characteristic

eparsons: use cases gathering task will end shortly so getting them in soon enough would be great

Linda_: upon review of use case, they all seem to be public or government... with no private

eparsons: I have added some private ones... it is important to include these

Conclusions

<ChrisLittle> bye

<KarlG_> bye all

<AndreaPerego> See you in Barcelona

<JoshLieberman> bye

see everonenetxt week

<KJanowicz> bye

<eparsons> bye all

<Alex_Coley> bye

<MattPerry> bye