W3C

Timed Text Working Group Teleconference

11 Dec 2014

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Attendees

Present
Frans, tmichel, nigel, courtney, jdsmith, pal, plh
Regrets
andreas, mdolan
Chair
nigel
Scribe
nigel

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 11 December 2014

<scribe> scribeNick: nigel

This meeting

group: no AOB to raise

nigel: Is the TTML2 publication timeline okay?

pal: I wonder how long the whole Rec track process will take for TTML2.

IMSC 1 transition to CR

nigel: We have published the CR - thanks everyone!
... And we have sent a Call for Implementations.

tmichel: The latter is a message that must be sent by the Comm team as part of the W3C process.
... It went to ac-forum, which is member-restricted. We can take that message, redact it if necessary,
... and send it to anyone who might be interested in implementing the specification.
... Or we can send any other message we want too.

nigel: So I think we have 2 actions: 1) to work on the test suite and
... 2) to publicise that this is a good time to work on implementations.

tmichel: I can draft a message and prepare a list of bodies that we could send it to, and people could
... complement the list and then we can send the message out.

<scribe> ACTION: tmichel Draft a message re IMSC 1 CR test suite and implementation and a list of bodies to send it to. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/11-tt-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-359 - Draft a message re imsc 1 cr test suite and implementation and a list of bodies to send it to. [on Thierry Michel - due 2014-12-18].

jdsmith: Is anyone working on the test suite right now?

pal: DECE has contributed all its CFF-TT test content, so we already have a good basis.
... My first plan is to translate them into IMSC 1 test cases e.g. by translating namespace values.

jdsmith: I can contribute by doing a gap analysis comparing the current test suite to IMSC 1 CR

Frans: you can send me issues for EBU to tackle, e.g. EBU-TT-D features that are in IMSC 1.

Action items

action-354?

<trackbot> action-354 -- Mike Dolan to Investigate formal contact at arib -- due 2014-11-27 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/354

nigel: Mike did identify someone in ARIB and sent a liaison request note.

plh: These group to group liaisons are managed at a group level.

http://www.w3.org/2001/11/StdLiaison.html

plh: We will need to update that page for the liaison, so we'll need two names, one for each organisation.
... And that's pretty much it.
... It's an action on the chair to send the letter, but I or Thierry can assist.

<scribe> ACTION: nigel Send liaison request on behalf of W3C TTWG to ARIB [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/11-tt-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-360 - Send liaison request on behalf of w3c ttwg to arib [on Nigel Megitt - due 2014-12-18].

<scribe> ACTION: plh Update liaisons table to include ARIB [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/11-tt-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-361 - Update liaisons table to include arib [on Philippe Le Hégaret - due 2014-12-18].

close action-354

<trackbot> Closed action-354.

Issues

issue-358?

<trackbot> issue-358 -- Add identifier support for related ordered sequences of documents -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/358

reopen issue-358

<trackbot> Re-opened issue-358.

issue-10?

<trackbot> issue-10 -- Allowing pointers to pre-rendered audio forms of elements -- pending review

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/10

close issue-10

<trackbot> Closed issue-10.

issue-230?

<trackbot> issue-230 -- Forced display -- pending review

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/230

close issue-230

<trackbot> Closed issue-230.

issue-238?

<trackbot> issue-238 -- smpte:backgroundImage -- pending review

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/238

close issue-238

<trackbot> Closed issue-238.

issue-239?

<trackbot> issue-239 -- smpte:backgroundImageHorizontal -- pending review

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/239

issue-240?

<trackbot> issue-240 -- smpte:backgroundImageVertical -- pending review

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/240

close issue-239

<trackbot> Closed issue-239.

close issue-240

<trackbot> Closed issue-240.

issue-241?

<trackbot> issue-241 -- smpte:data (inline binary data) -- pending review

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/241

close issue-241

<trackbot> Closed issue-241.

issue-242?

<trackbot> issue-242 -- smpte:image (inline image data) -- pending review

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/242

close issue-242

<trackbot> Closed issue-242.

issue-244?

<trackbot> issue-244 -- m608:channel -- pending review

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/244

nigel: On the reflector Andreas has signalled that all the issues solved with ttm:item need further
... consideration because they can't be validated using XML Schema 1.1.
... Glenn isn't here to respond to the comment, and neither is Andreas.

Frans: As we're aware that more discussion is needed we could keep these open until resolved.

nigel: We'll skip down past the ttm:item related issues...

issue-273?

<trackbot> issue-273 -- Map fontFamily to external font file resources -- pending review

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/273

nigel: It's hard to pull out the specific change on the Mercurial diff for this issue, plus it seems to be
... incomplete since there are editorial notes outstanding that are needed for full understanding of
... this solution.

issue-287?

<trackbot> issue-287 -- Generic ability to tunnel BASE64 encoded binary files for legacy support -- pending review

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/287

close issue-287

<trackbot> Closed issue-287.

issue-289?

<trackbot> issue-289 -- For TTML created for overlay on top of video, signal the aspect ratio of the video the TTML was created for -- pending review

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/289

nigel: this is another ttm:item one, so leaving open.
... The remaining issues are all dependent on ttm:item, which needs to be closed off.

Change Proposals

nigel: We just closed Issue-230, which was the only dependency for CP16
... so I'll close CP16.
... Looking at CP18...

https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal018

nigel: We closed issue-238, 239, 240, 242 and 287 so we can close this change proposal.
... which I'll do.
... I'll take the highlighting off Change Proposal 8 and 23 too, while I'm editing the index page.

Note on TTML versions

https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/5ee90ec0d897/ttml-status/index.html

nigel: It'd be useful for everyone to look at this and propose any edits - note that it's a product on the tracker
... so you can raise issues against it.
... Thanks everyone - we've completed our agenda. We meet for the last time in 2014 for 1 hour next week.
... [adjourns meeting]

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: nigel Send liaison request on behalf of W3C TTWG to ARIB [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/11-tt-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: plh Update liaisons table to include ARIB [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/11-tt-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: tmichel Draft a message re IMSC 1 CR test suite and implementation and a list of bodies to send it to. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/11-tt-minutes.html#action01]
 
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