<trackbot> Date: 26 November 2014

xf:email

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Nov/0002.html

Steven: I'm surprised and delighted at the discussion on this.
... and happy they've turned it into an issue.
... I'm writing a reply to them on the issue, to try and clarify what we really want.
... For instance we don't need to know if a domain really exists.
... We only want the syntax of the "lexical space".

Erik: There seems to be a strong feeling that HTML shouldn't specify anything that restricts the domain of possibly valid email addresses.

Steven: Nor should we.

Erik: There is a tension between following specs, and being helpful to users.

Steven: We should be as helpful as we can, on no more helpful than that.
... we need to insure that we allow what comes between the dots is the maximum allowable.

Erik: How about the trailing slash?

Steven: I think that's a bug.

Erik: How about tlds that don't exist.
... I mean something like "foo@amsterdam"

Steven: Well, that seems like not a valid address. "localhost" would be an example.

Erik: Would it ever arise in practice?

Steven: You are suggesting that there should be at least one dot?

Erik: I just don't know.

Steven: The question is do we want to discount legal but unlikely addresses?

Erik: In special cases a form author could always create a special type for their local needs.

Steven: That may be the best approach

Review section 8

https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_2.0#Core_Form_Controls

Steven: Thanks for your comments Alain.

"The core form controls are described in this module, including their attributes and their content models (their metadata elements). "

Steven: Do we want to keep " (their metadata elements)"

Philip: I'm not sure what is intended either.

Steven: Some examples have very old dates (eg 2002)
... I'm inclined to update them.

<ebruchez> works for me

Steven: Several controls have @inputmode and @incremental
... I'm inclined to make those central attributes rather than "special" for each control

<ebruchez> fine with me

Steven: We have no example of the use of <copy> in select and select1
... One other thing, <itemset> is not in this section.
... which is kind of weird.

Erik: It doesn't belong in the repeat module.
... copy is in section 9.

Steven: I think these should definitely be in section 8.

[general agreement]

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to move itemset and copy to section 8. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/26-forms-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1989 - Move itemset and copy to section 8. [on Steven Pemberton - due 2014-12-03].

Steven: Next week we discuss section 9.

header/@name and @value

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Oct/0045.html

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Nov/0000.html

<ebruchez> yes I have ACTION-1986 on the extra instance namespaces issue

Steven: I think we have resolved this, so closing this issue.

AOB

Steven: I think we have now dealt with everything we can do without Nick.
... anything else?

[No]

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