<Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this

<Lisa_Seeman> scribe: ZakimName

review of agenda, new items

<Lisa_Seeman> scribe Susann_Keohane

<Lisa_Seeman> scribe: Susann_Keohane

Chaohai: introduced himself

LS: lead the round the table introductions
... Tony started to draft dyslexic techniques

SK: Need to ensure the content references are marked
... Request Neil review content he added to ensure it's referenced appropiately

<Lisa_Seeman> action neil to check there are no todo items to add to the add section

<trackbot> Created ACTION-60 - Check there are no todo items to add to the add section [on Neil Milliken - due 2014-11-10].

review of actions - including identifying user strategies and cognitive function table

LS: we made two important resolutions in last call
... sent new content for the working draft

LS

LS: may want to discuss the easy read techniques
... we need to assign to-do actions for next steps which is techniques
... we also have UAG to respond to as we are late responding

review resolutions from last week on schedules and resolutions process

<neilmilliken> fine with me too

me too

LS: schedules and resolution was sent to the list
... important resolution has 48hr warning and gets sent to the list
... small resolutions can get handled on this call
... some folks may prefer 3 days because of country holidays
... 48hr may seem short for some
... If a resolution gets sent during a holiday and there is a request to re-open the issue then the request will be granted

<JohnRochford> +1 for 48-hour resolution

LS: open to any one who has an opinion on the 48hr resolution

<Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Oct/0040.html

LS: this resolution has been passed

<Tony_Doran> IIRC it was recorded when I was last scribe.

<Lisa_Seeman> resolution : 48 hours for big issues to be passed on the liist. small issues can be passed on the calls

<Lisa_Seeman> resolution: 48 hours for big issues to be passed on the liist. small issues can be passed on the calls

<Lisa_Seeman> Schedule for the first working draft on the user groups research (what we already have done) .

<Lisa_Seeman> Content finished: 27th October (This will include a new introduction and the cognitive-functions table )

LS: schedule is the next item to discuss

<Lisa_Seeman> Review changes: 10th November (object in 48 hours and record a resolution)

<Lisa_Seeman> Send to the working groups: 17th November

<Lisa_Seeman> Publish December: 4 or 11th.

<Lisa_Seeman> Schedule for the first editors draft on the Gap Analysis

<Lisa_Seeman> Putting together a first draft of techniques on the wiki: 24th November

<Lisa_Seeman> Putting together a first draft of key issue papers about specific areas that need special consideration, such as, security and capture (draft by John), online payments, providing help, interruptions, interoperable symbols: 24th November

<Lisa_Seeman> First editors draft of Gap Analysis on key use cases and introduction: 15th December

LS: 2 things we are working on (1) working draft of the user group work to be sent out for review

<JohnRochford> +q

LS: Nov 10th is the date targetted
... (2) rest of the task force to be looking at gap analysis
... need to be gathering information for techniques
... pulled together techniques and link to the known techniques we have already
... start drafting key issues paper
... Lisa and John have an initial draft of key issues

John: I have offered to edit the gap analysis
... editor would ensure the spelling and sentence structure is correct and the content is logical

LS: editor in W3C are the people who are writing it into github and writing the introduction
... we are looking for pro-reader to review the documents

<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: John Rochford to proof read user group, new content sections [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-minutes.html#action01]

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<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: JohnRochford to proof read user group, new content sections [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-61 - Proof read user group, new content sections [on John Rochford - due 2014-11-10].

<Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Nov/att-0010/user-research.htmlv

<richardschwerdtfeger> corrected link: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Nov/att-0010/user-research.html

LS: Please review the introduction in the link above
... should the gap analysis be included?
... section on research of cognitive functions, methodology may be better at the end of the document

Rich: will there be a glossary at the end for the term that folks may not recognize?
... this will be needed if it goes to a wide audience who may not know the different terms used

<Lisa_Seeman> glossary

Rich: may fall under a WAI glossary
... there is one for ARIA but not sure if it is shared across groups
... defining these medical terms will be a good thing to do

LS: the terms are discussed in the section, where would be link to? to the glossary?

John: is there a link to a glossary that Rich can share?

<Tim> not just definition but its source

LS: glossary would say dyslexia is <add definition> then point to where it is discussed in more detail

<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: Rich to find out how glossary is pulled in [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-62 - Find out how glossary is pulled in [on Richard Schwerdtfeger - due 2014-11-10].

LS: someone who is interested in building the glossary may be KC
... can we have a to-do box for the glossary to be added
... or does this need to go out with the draft?

Janina: it is not needed for the draft but it would be useful to have one

LS: is there a coordination call where this can be discussed?

Janina: we do have one next week

RESOLUTION: make a glossary to link where issues/terms are discussed and defined

review/ approve new content for working draft

<Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Nov/att-0010/user-research.html

<Lisa_Seeman> https://w3c.github.io/wcag/coga/gap-analysis.html#research-on-user-groups

LS: the link above, we want to get to a first working draft
... research on user groups
... we need abstract, introduction
... scripts are causing a numbering issue that needs to be resolved
... we also need a summary
... potential for inclusion is also in for now
... at the end of document the discussion on the different cognitive function and methodology should be added

John: note that much of content would be out of scope for the task force
... why would this be included?

LS: should we review this offline?

Rich: is there something we can do with formatting?

LS: review specifically if content should be included or not
... not so much the formatting issues

<JohnRochford> LS: Response to John's question about including out-of-scope content is that it is background information

Tim: what kind of document is this? Reccomendation?

LS: it's a research document
... pulled together information from each user group into a table
... Please send comments sent to the list
... To-do for this group is to review the working draft and send comments to the list unless is purely editorial then send to Lisa or Michael

assign todo actions for next steps

LS: review substantive issues as there are known issues with the scripts and formatting
... need help with gathering the techniques of different user groups
... look at the techniques that help for the techniques page
... the other is the issues paper
... John is doing one on security and Lisa on alt-text

Tim: is there a list of what issues paper that need to be written

LS: online payment, providing help, security/captcha, voice systems/xml voice menu system that are becoming Web technology
... another is voiceML
... request for volunteer for an issue paper

replace alt-txt above with help system

LS: Susann volunteer to pull techniques from Aging

<Tony_Doran> Need to drop off - Bye

Tim: will look at list and pick an issues paper

<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: Susann_Keohane to add techniques from aging subgroup [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-minutes.html#action04]

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<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: SusannKeohane to add techniques from aging subgroup [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-minutes.html#action05]

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<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: SusannKeoh to add techniques from aging subgroup [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-minutes.html#action06]

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ction: Susann_Keohane to add techniques from aging subgroup

<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: Tim to write issue paper [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-minutes.html#action07]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-63 - Write issue paper [on Frederick Boland - due 2014-11-10].

<scribe> ACTION: Susann_Keohane to add techniques from aging subgroup [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-minutes.html#action08]

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<scribe> ACTION: Susann Keohane to add techniques from aging subgroup [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-minutes.html#action09]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-64 - Keohane to add techniques from aging subgroup [on Susann Keohane - due 2014-11-10].

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