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14:38:34 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, this will be  WAI_CogTF
14:38:34 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, Lisa_Seeman
14:47:24 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets:Kinshuk, Deborah Dahl
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15:29:20 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, this will be  WAI_CogTF
15:29:20 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, Lisa_Seeman
16:07:10 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, this will be  WAI_CogTF
16:07:10 <Zakim> ok, Lisa_Seeman; I see WAI_CogTF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 53 minutes
16:35:37 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets:Kinshuk, Deborah Dahl
16:43:04 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda: this
16:43:05 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  review of agenda, new items
16:43:07 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  review of actions - including identifying user strategies and cognitive function table
16:43:08 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  review resolutions from last week  on schedules and resolutions process
16:43:10 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  review/ approve new content for working draft
16:43:11 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  assign todo actions for next steps
16:43:13 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  John's EA and Kate's thread
16:43:14 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  template for issue papers
16:43:16 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  review of User Agent Accessibility Guidelines (UAAG) 2.0 Last Call Working Draft. The working group (UAWG)
16:43:17 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  approval of other new content, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Aug/0045.html, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Aug/0044.html
16:43:19 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  editing github
16:43:20 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  Next FTF
16:43:22 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+ How will we receive comments?
16:43:23 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+ be done
16:43:25 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe: ZakimName
16:53:59 <Zakim> WAI_CogTF()12:00PM has now started
16:54:06 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:54:33 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
16:54:33 <Zakim> +Lisa_Seeman; got it
16:54:44 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:54:44 <Zakim> agendum 1. "review of agenda, new items" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
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16:59:41 <JohnRochford> Zakim, ??P3 is JohnRochford
16:59:41 <Zakim> +JohnRochford; got it
16:59:45 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim,  +??P2  is Chaohai_Ding
16:59:45 <Zakim> sorry, Lisa_Seeman, I do not recognize a party named '+??P2'
16:59:50 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim,  ??P2  is Chaohai_Ding
16:59:50 <Zakim> +Chaohai_Ding; got it
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17:01:22 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe Susann_Keohane
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17:01:39 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe: Susann_Keohane
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17:03:19 <Zakim> + +1.804.749.aabb
17:03:38 <Susann_Keohane> zakim, who is here?
17:03:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see Lisa_Seeman, Susann_Keohane, Chaohai_Ding, JohnRochford, Tony_Doran, +44.203.618.aaaa, +1.804.749.aabb
17:03:40 <Zakim> On IRC I see Tony_Doran, Susann_Keohane, Chaohai_Ding, JohnRochford, slee, RRSAgent, Zakim, Lisa_Seeman, janina, trackbot
17:04:08 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim,  aabb  is DebraRue
17:04:08 <Zakim> +DebraRue; got it
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17:05:49 <neilmilliken> zakim, +442036182950 is me
17:05:49 <Zakim> sorry, neilmilliken, I do not recognize a party named '+442036182950'
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17:06:51 <Susann_Keohane> Chaohai: introduced himself
17:07:11 <JohnRochford> Zakim, aaaa is neilmilliken
17:07:11 <Zakim> +neilmilliken; got it
17:07:17 <Zakim> +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
17:07:25 <Susann_Keohane> LS: lead the round the table introductions
17:07:50 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, who is here?
17:07:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see Lisa_Seeman, Susann_Keohane, Chaohai_Ding, JohnRochford, Tony_Doran, neilmilliken, DebraRue, Rich_Schwerdtfeger
17:07:52 <Zakim> On IRC I see janina_, richardschwerdtfeger, neilmilliken, Tony_Doran, Susann_Keohane, Chaohai_Ding, JohnRochford, slee, RRSAgent, Zakim, Lisa_Seeman, janina, trackbot
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17:09:07 <janina> zakim, ??P13 is me
17:09:07 <Zakim> +janina; got it
17:11:43 <Susann_Keohane> LS: Tony started to draft dyslexic techniques
17:12:48 <Susann_Keohane> SK: Need to ensure the content references are marked
17:13:14 <Susann_Keohane> SK: Request Neil review content he added to ensure it's referenced appropiately
17:14:39 <Lisa_Seeman> action neil to check there are no todo items to add to the add section
17:14:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-60 - Check there are no todo items to add to the add section [on Neil Milliken - due 2014-11-10].
17:15:07 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
17:15:07 <Zakim> agendum 2. "review of actions - including identifying user strategies and cognitive function table" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:15:48 <Susann_Keohane> LS: we made two important resolutions in last call
17:16:01 <Susann_Keohane> LS: sent new content for the working draft
17:16:03 <Susann_Keohane> LS
17:16:34 <Susann_Keohane> LS: may want to discuss the easy read techniques
17:16:47 <Susann_Keohane> Ls: we need to assign to-do actions for next steps which is techniques
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17:17:00 <janina_> zakim, who's here?
17:17:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see Lisa_Seeman, Susann_Keohane, Chaohai_Ding, JohnRochford, Tony_Doran, neilmilliken, DebraRue, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, janina
17:17:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see Barry, KateDeibel, janina_, richardschwerdtfeger, neilmilliken, Tony_Doran, Susann_Keohane, Chaohai_Ding, JohnRochford, slee, RRSAgent, Zakim, Lisa_Seeman, janina,
17:17:03 <Zakim> ... trackbot
17:17:04 <Susann_Keohane> LS: we also have UAG to respond to as we are late responding
17:17:10 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
17:17:10 <Zakim> agendum 3. "review resolutions from last week  on schedules and resolutions process" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:17:29 <neilmilliken> fine with me too
17:17:34 <Susann_Keohane> me too
17:17:50 <Susann_Keohane> LS: schedules and resolution was sent to the list
17:18:28 <Susann_Keohane> LS: important resolution has 48hr warning and gets sent to the list
17:18:52 <Susann_Keohane> LS: small resolutions can get handled on this call
17:19:38 <Susann_Keohane> LS: some folks may prefer 3 days because of country holidays
17:19:56 <Susann_Keohane> LS: 48hr may seem short for some
17:20:54 <Susann_Keohane> LS: If a resolution gets sent during a holiday and there is a request to re-open the issue then the request will be granted
17:21:08 <JohnRochford> +1 for 48-hour resolution
17:21:16 <Susann_Keohane> LS: open to any one who has an opinion on the 48hr resolution
17:21:27 <Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Oct/0040.html
17:21:31 <Susann_Keohane> LS:this resolution has been passed
17:22:42 <Tony_Doran> IIRC it was recorded when I was last scribe.
17:22:43 <Lisa_Seeman> resolution : 48 hours for big issues to be passed on the liist. small issues can be passed on the calls
17:22:53 <Lisa_Seeman> resolution: 48 hours for big issues to be passed on the liist. small issues can be passed on the calls
17:23:30 <Lisa_Seeman> Schedule for the first working draft on the user groups research (what we already have done) .
17:23:32 <Lisa_Seeman> Content finished: 27th October (This will include a new introduction and the cognitive-functions table )
17:23:32 <Susann_Keohane> LS: schedule is the next item to discuss
17:23:33 <Lisa_Seeman> Review changes: 10th November (object in 48 hours and record a resolution)
17:23:35 <Lisa_Seeman> Send to the working groups: 17th November
17:23:36 <Lisa_Seeman> Publish December: 4 or 11th.
17:23:38 <Lisa_Seeman> Schedule for the first editors draft on the Gap Analysis
17:23:39 <Lisa_Seeman> Putting together a first draft of techniques on the wiki:  24th November
17:23:41 <Lisa_Seeman> Putting together a first draft of key issue papers about specific areas that need special consideration, such as, security and capture (draft by John), online payments, providing help, interruptions, interoperable symbols: 24th November
17:23:42 <Lisa_Seeman> First editors draft of Gap Analysis on key use cases and introduction: 15th December
17:25:05 <Susann_Keohane> LS: 2 things we are working on (1) working draft of the user group work to be sent out for review
17:25:25 <JohnRochford> +q
17:25:29 <Susann_Keohane> LS: Nov 10th is the date targetted
17:26:09 <Susann_Keohane> LS: (2) rest of the task force to be looking at gap analysis
17:26:20 <Susann_Keohane> LS: need to be gathering information for techniques
17:26:35 <Susann_Keohane> LS: pulled together techniques and link to the known techniques we have already
17:26:45 <Susann_Keohane> LS: start drafting key issues paper
17:27:05 <Susann_Keohane> LS: Lisa and John have an initial draft of key issues
17:27:49 <Susann_Keohane> John: I have offered to edit the gap analysis
17:28:20 <Susann_Keohane> John: editor would ensure the spelling and sentence structure is correct and the content is logical
17:28:45 <Susann_Keohane> LS: editor in W3C are the people who are writing it into github and writing the introduction
17:29:16 <Susann_Keohane> LS: we are looking for pro-reader to review the documents
17:29:18 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
17:29:18 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Lisa_Seeman
17:29:26 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
17:29:43 <Lisa_Seeman> ack j
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17:30:48 <Lisa_Seeman> action: John Rochford to proof read user group, new content sections
17:30:48 <trackbot> 'John' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., jfoliot, JohnRochford).
17:31:02 <Lisa_Seeman> action: JohnRochford to proof read user group, new content sections
17:31:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-61 - Proof read user group, new content sections [on John Rochford - due 2014-11-10].
17:31:46 <Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Nov/att-0010/user-research.htmlv
17:32:44 <richardschwerdtfeger> corrected link: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Nov/att-0010/user-research.html
17:33:22 <Susann_Keohane> LS: Please review the introduction in the link above
17:33:36 <Zakim> -DebraRue
17:33:44 <Susann_Keohane> LS: should the gap analysis be included?
17:34:34 <Susann_Keohane> LS: section on research of cognitive functions, methodology may be better at the end of the document
17:35:03 <Susann_Keohane> Rich: will there be a glossary at the end for the term that folks may not recognize?
17:35:30 <Susann_Keohane> Rich: this will be needed if it goes to a wide audience who may not know the different terms used
17:35:32 <Lisa_Seeman> glossary
17:35:38 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
17:36:09 <Susann_Keohane> Rich: may fall under a WAI glossary
17:36:32 <Susann_Keohane> Rich: there is one for ARIA but not sure if it is shared across groups
17:36:33 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
17:36:50 <Susann_Keohane> Rich: defining these medical terms will be a good thing to do
17:37:22 <Susann_Keohane> LS: the terms are discussed in the section, where would be link to? to the glossary?
17:37:41 <Susann_Keohane> John: is there a link to a glossary that Rich can share?
17:38:27 <Tim> not just definition but its source
17:38:38 <Susann_Keohane> LS: glossary would say dyslexia is <add definition> then point to where it is discussed in more detail
17:39:16 <Lisa_Seeman> action: Rich to find out how glossary is pulled in
17:39:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-62 - Find out how glossary is pulled in [on Richard Schwerdtfeger - due 2014-11-10].
17:39:56 <Susann_Keohane> LS: someone who is interested in building the glossary may be KC
17:40:35 <Susann_Keohane> LS: can we have a to-do box for the glossary to be added
17:40:46 <Susann_Keohane> LS: or does this need to go out with the draft?
17:41:01 <Susann_Keohane> Janina: it is not needed for the draft but it would be useful to have one
17:42:04 <Susann_Keohane> LS: is there a coordination call where this can be discussed?
17:42:13 <Susann_Keohane> Janina: we do have one next week
17:42:43 <Susann_Keohane> RESOLUTION: make a glossary to link where issues/terms are discussed and defined
17:42:59 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
17:42:59 <Zakim> agendum 4. "review/ approve new content for working draft" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:43:37 <Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Nov/att-0010/user-research.html
17:44:35 <Lisa_Seeman> https://w3c.github.io/wcag/coga/gap-analysis.html#research-on-user-groups
17:44:47 <Susann_Keohane> LS: the link above, we want to get to a first working draft
17:45:20 <Susann_Keohane> LS: research on user groups
17:45:43 <Susann_Keohane> LS: we need abstract, introduction
17:45:57 <Susann_Keohane> LS: scripts are causing a numbering issue that needs to be resolved
17:46:09 <Susann_Keohane> LS: we also need a summary
17:46:29 <Susann_Keohane> LS: potential for inclusion is also in for now
17:47:20 <Susann_Keohane> LS: at the end of document the discussion on the different cognitive function and methodology should be added
17:47:34 <Susann_Keohane> John: note that much of content would be out of scope for the task force
17:47:45 <Susann_Keohane> John: why would this be included?
17:48:09 <Susann_Keohane> LS: should we review this offline?
17:48:21 <Susann_Keohane> Rich: is there something we can do with formatting?
17:49:27 <Susann_Keohane> LS: review specifically if content should be included or not
17:49:39 <Zakim> -neilmilliken
17:49:40 <Susann_Keohane> LS: not so much the formatting issues
17:50:13 <JohnRochford> LS: Response to John's question about including out-of-scope content is that it is background information
17:50:20 <Zakim> +neilmilliken
17:50:28 <Susann_Keohane> Tim: what kind of document is this? Reccomendation?
17:50:37 <Susann_Keohane> LS: it's a research document
17:51:46 <Susann_Keohane> LS: pulled together information from each user group into a table
17:51:52 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
17:53:10 <Susann_Keohane> LS: Please send comments sent to the list
17:53:45 <Susann_Keohane> LS: To-do for this group is to review the working draft and send comments to the list unless is purely editorial then send to Lisa or Michael
17:54:45 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
17:54:45 <Zakim> agendum 5. "assign todo actions for next steps" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:54:51 <Susann_Keohane> LS: review substantive issues as there are known issues with the scripts and formatting
17:55:14 <Susann_Keohane> LS: need help with gathering the techniques of different user groups
17:55:55 <Susann_Keohane> LS: look at the techniques that help for the techniques page
17:56:10 <Susann_Keohane> q+
17:56:25 <Susann_Keohane> LS: the other is the issues paper
17:56:41 <Susann_Keohane> LS: John is doing one on security and Lisa on alt-text
17:57:05 <Susann_Keohane> Tim: is there a list of what issues paper that need to be written
17:58:24 <Susann_Keohane> LS: online payment, providing help, security/captcha, voice systems/xml voice menu system that are becoming Web technology
17:59:12 <Susann_Keohane> LS: another is voiceML
17:59:49 <Susann_Keohane> LS: request for volunteer for an issue paper
18:00:14 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
18:00:26 <Lisa_Seeman> ack susa
18:01:33 <Susann_Keohane> replace alt-txt above with help system
18:02:04 <Susann_Keohane> LS: Susann volunteer to pull techniques from Aging
18:02:39 <Tony_Doran> Need to drop off - Bye
18:02:49 <Zakim> -Tony_Doran
18:02:56 <Susann_Keohane> Tim: will look at list and pick an issues paper
18:03:03 <Lisa_Seeman> action: Susann_Keohane to add techniques from aging subgroup
18:03:03 <trackbot> Error finding 'Susann_Keohane'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
18:03:09 <Lisa_Seeman> action: SusannKeohane to add techniques from aging subgroup
18:03:09 <trackbot> Error finding 'SusannKeohane'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
18:03:18 <Lisa_Seeman> action: SusannKeoh to add techniques from aging subgroup
18:03:18 <trackbot> Error finding 'SusannKeoh'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
18:03:32 <Susann_Keohane> ction: Susann_Keohane to add techniques from aging subgroup
18:03:43 <Lisa_Seeman> action: Tim to write issue paper
18:03:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-63 - Write issue paper [on Frederick Boland - due 2014-11-10].
18:03:44 <Susann_Keohane> action: Susann_Keohane to add techniques from aging subgroup
18:03:44 <trackbot> Error finding 'Susann_Keohane'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
18:04:28 <Susann_Keohane> action: Susann Keohane to add techniques from aging subgroup
18:04:29 <trackbot> Created ACTION-64 - Keohane to add techniques from aging subgroup [on Susann Keohane - due 2014-11-10].
18:05:20 <Susann_Keohane> rrsagent, make logs public
18:05:31 <Zakim> -neilmilliken
18:05:31 <Susann_Keohane> rrsagent, draft minutes
18:05:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-minutes.html Susann_Keohane
18:05:40 <Susann_Keohane> zakim, please part
18:05:40 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Lisa_Seeman, Susann_Keohane, JohnRochford, Chaohai_Ding, Tony_Doran, +44.203.618.aaaa, +1.804.749.aabb, DebraRue, neilmilliken,
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18:05:46 <Susann_Keohane> rrsagent, please part
18:05:46 <RRSAgent> I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-actions.rdf :
18:05:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: John Rochford to proof read user group, new content sections [1]
18:05:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-irc#T17-30-48
18:05:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JohnRochford to proof read user group, new content sections [2]
18:05:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-irc#T17-31-02
18:05:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Rich to find out how glossary is pulled in [3]
18:05:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-irc#T17-39-16
18:05:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Susann_Keohane to add techniques from aging subgroup [4]
18:05:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-irc#T18-03-03
18:05:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SusannKeohane to add techniques from aging subgroup [5]
18:05:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-irc#T18-03-09
18:05:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SusannKeoh to add techniques from aging subgroup [6]
18:05:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-irc#T18-03-18
18:05:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Tim to write issue paper [7]
18:05:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-irc#T18-03-43
18:05:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Susann_Keohane to add techniques from aging subgroup [8]
18:05:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-irc#T18-03-44-1
18:05:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Susann Keohane to add techniques from aging subgroup [9]
18:05:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/03-coga-irc#T18-04-28
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