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HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

18 Sep 2014

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Attendees

Present
janina, Liam, Judy, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, +1.617.319.aaaa, MarkS, paulc, JF, Cynthia_Shelly, leonie, SteveF_, ShaneM
Regrets
Chair
Janina
Scribe
MarkS

Contents


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TPAC 2014

JS: no additional information since our discussion a couple weeks ago.
... Paul, anything of interest to us appear on the wiki lately?

PC: i need to get the wiki in shape. I will transcribe the issues from a couple weeks ago into that wiki.

JS: PF will be scheduling all meetings, otherwise we won't get to meet with everyone we want to.

Longdesc CR Progress

JS: schedule your hotel soon
... waiting for director's decision. on hold until we hear more.

JB: nothing to add at this time

Our Alt Note http://rawgit.com/w3c/alt-techniques/master/index.html

Liam: changed it to be a note (from ED). still needs a bit more work in the status section. there will be other pubrules type changes that will need to be done.

JS: Want to get started on this. It's easy to miss small details that require re-publication. Would like to get a lot of people to review it, me, judy, paul, etc.

JB: will need announcements prepared as well. Liam, we should meet on that.

JS: can we get this published next week? reasonable?

JB: sounds probable

Liam: publishing as a note doesn't mean it cannot be updatedin the future. will need to add longdesc guidance at the least.

JS: there is work going on in ARIA which may also result in some changes to that document.

HTML Process Tweaks Going Forward? http://darobin.github.io/after5/

<SteveF> hi whats the passcode?

JS: discussion on list about tweaks to the process for HTML5.1
... also some external discussions, like on robin's blog.
... discussions are picking up now that we are at a milestone stage. perhaps there are some thoughts from this group that need to be communicated.

PC: robin blogged about this awhile ago and asked us to hold off until he did his lightning talk at the extensible web conf. He also started a thread on public open web list
... just starting. chairs would like to see what emerges.
... haven't had such a vibrant thread on public-html in quite some time, its good to see.

JS: so it sounds like we should be reading public-html and participating in the discussion if we have input.
... glad I brought it up.

CS: (early) congrats

PC: too early ;)

JF: Paul mentioned the thread on public-html. Seems like I'm only getting some of them... My concern is that there is confusion between a spec and a standard. that distinction is important to me
... standards don't change.
... a moving target is more of a specification.
... should not abandon one in favor of other.

SF: From my understanding, the work mode...
... robin is promoting is getting more people involved in the early stages of discussions. ideas that emerge will still go through the process.
... its about opening up the development to more people

JF: sounds to me like its a topic worthy of discussion. I think the W3C has done a lot to open up the process and add their voice. lots of complaints that its not open, but those people don't try to participate.
... moving to git, promoting CGs is all very open IMO
... the discussion feels a little naive to me at times

<Zakim> ShaneM, you wanted to point out that the w3c is also a business

SM: I've worked for 3-4 industry consortia over the years. we have to remember that its a business too. there are bills to pay.
... its not unreasonable to push back and make that point.

JS: this group has good discussions on call, will continue to add this to the agenda.

Other Business

RS: Mark, how are we on Canvas testing?

MS: will add tests over the next 5 days. next meeting is on 9/26

RS: in the test files we should describe clearly what success will be

JS: canvas has now become a TF under HTML. Mark and Rich are still active in that group and will represent a11y there.

<paulc> TPAC agenda updated at https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-10-Agenda#F2F_Topics

JS: unless there is specific issues for this group, I intend to keep reports on this work in Other business moving forward
... no news on Media

PC: I have just finished cleaning up the agenda for TPAC. I added accessibility topics to the link above.
... please review and let me know if any adjustments are needed.

JS: adjourned

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