<harry> I believe Mark Crawford, Larry Hawes, and Anne Bassetti have given

<harry> regrets

<Lloyd_Fassett_> What is the command to associate "1.541.848.aaaa' with my name?

<Lloyd_Fassett_> thank you

<harry> [trying to decide whether or not to cancel]

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Lloyd_Fassett_: we want to avoid duplication of efforts with WG, spaking as *Vocabulary* TF lead

harry: WG still debates syntax, IG can describe use cases which would calrify need for vocabularies

we will try to match use cases to existing known vocabularies

Lloyd_Fassett_: spoken with jasnell over last weeks, he raised issue with governance of schema.org
... Vocabulary TF could define requirements to fair ownership over vocabulary, like schema.org
... Q: does some organization exist who could host recommended vocabulary?

harry: historicaly W3C doesn't host vocabularies

in original TimBL vision, everyone can host vocabularies

if we need to host, and governance of schema.org would make problem, W3C could host vocabs

Lloyd_Fassett_: maybe we could have hybrid where W3C could host cannonical version of vocabularie

harry, vcard worked this way

Lloyd_Fassett_, where do I find info about hosting vcard by W3C?

<harry> http://www.w3.org/TR/vcard-rdf/

Lloyd_Fassett_: anything we want to add to Vocabulary TF?

<AdamB> AdamB

AdamB: we find profiles interesting and federation of profiles

harry: if you have some existing systems please share what kind of data you want to federate

AdamB: happy to excercise in Boing some of the work we do here
... we have various levels of expertise in vocab we use

Lloyd_Fassett_: we miss vocab in skills domain

+1

i use http://smiy.sourceforge.net/cco/spec/cognitivecharacteristics.html#

we also had chat with tantek today about http://jsonresume.org/

harry: we need mass of information about existing systems and vocabs
... strongly about vocabularies not grounded in actual existing systems, going bottom-up not top-down

AdamB: US government taxonomies extermaly top-down

http://lov.okfn.org/dataset/lov/

https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialig/Members_Directory_Use_Case

<harry> schepers@w3.org

harry: suggest contacting schepers who works on certifications

AdamB: pattern - see what people use today and go from there

harry: if you have particular need you try to cover in Boing, we want to ensure we cover it
... and hopefully also open systems will implement it

Arnaud: we need to stay pragmatic and base our work on what people already do today, instead of dream
... i want to react to situation about schema.org, i like that they improved license but not the governance situation
... we can copy what we need to have stable reference

we shouldn't stop using it about that

W3C haven't publish a lot of vocabularies, but if needed nothing will stop it, we have ways to get it done

harry: happy to see Lloyd_Fassett_ super pro active

hope to see similar level of commitment from other folks

harry: will talk with Mark about getting clear agendas

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